Is anyone running a stealth ram on a bone stock motor? no cam or heads anyway, im wondering what kind of power/time differences people have seen going to this intake.

 

Think about it this way, a TPI flows air at high speed but very low volume. This is very very good for low end torque.

If you put it on a stock motor you would probably lose a tiny bit of torque because you will lose a little bit of velocity with the stealth ram, but it should more then make up for any torque loss with horsepower in the 3000-5000 rpm rang, the TPI is what makes your motor fall flat on its face at 4500 rpms.

Dont know exactly what kind of gains you would get out of the swap. But regardless its a good investment because if you plan on doing cam or heads they will all need a better flowing intake to support them.

Personally if youre not looking to go overkill i would put a HSR on the car, a nice little cam upgrade nothing crazy, definitly something where the computer wont need reprograming. Some 1.6 roller rockers with better springs. And if you really wanted some minor head work as a last thing to open it up a little.

Obviously if you were to combine this with the nice exhaust you already have you would have a very stout little motor without going nuts on the budget, and not have to worry about blowing the thing up.

 

I think there should definately be some ECM reprograming no matter what. That intake is Dramatically different from stock, so a big portion of power should get free'd up with the new programing. Also, it would be a great time to swap springs, and switch to 1.6 RR's. With these small swaps, and a good run, you might be setting a new goal for yourself.

 

well for now its going to have to be run on stock programming. i wont be able to change anything else either. it was a stretch just to get the intake before i leave for college. But the guy had an AFPR on it so ill be able to play with that a little bit, and im going to see what kind of timing changes i can make. Im planning on trying to run down a bone stock LS1 that i bracket race with after i get it all right.

 

mmm what gears you got out back? If you .23's or .42's youll have a chance if you can get your engine running right.

My guess if you can get it running real good and hooking up is he pulls a car length off the launch on you, you hold through second, and he pulls another car or two in the top end.

 

ive got 3.27s. as of right now i take an LS1 off the line and then top of 2nd they come around me and add maybe a car and a half to 2 cars before the traps.

 

really eh? Maybe i overestimated LS1's i thought they were in the 13.5-13.7 range? because the stock 350's ran about 14.5-14.6 when the motor was brand new and exhaust and headers shouldnt be enough to make up 5 tenths

 

well im sure there are others that would do me worse than that...but theres one that i bracket race with all the time and thats how he does me. He has a 00-02 (not sure) WS6 6 speed, and i just think its because he cant launch well BUT hes the one that i want to beat heads up. the best he has run was like a 14.0 but usually he runs like 14.2. Id just love to run him down once, it would surprise the rest of the club

 

Mine ran a 14.2x bone stock at 110K. 350 TPI, 3.23's, ect.

 

very nice, at sea level my car could have run a 14.2 @ 97ish...but our air and DA are terrible...

 

For what it is worth.......my bolt on only '02 WS6 6-spd runs 13.4's at 108 fairly regularly and I SUCK as a driver.....plus it has major wheel hop & traction issues (stock tires).........and the crappy factory 10 bolt. With relo brackets, a 12 bolt and some drag radials, I would be easily below 13 seconds........

 

I've got the HSR on a bone stock motor.
On my 305, I noticed a huge drop in low end off the line torque but the car pulls strong to 5K now.

About the LS1 cars, my friends bone stock 99 SS 6 speed ran a 13.8, with 4.10 gears, LCA relocation brackets, and lid, it ran a 13.2. With an LPE cam, Hooker Longtubes, Dual exhaust, it ran a 12.04.

Another friends 01 Z28 6 speed with only suspension mods ran a 12.8. (01 and 02 LS1's got the LS6 intake and different cam)

 

Yeah, LS1's are a good bit faster at sea level. cc89formula track is at some obsurd DA, and at that altitude everything is alot slower. The LS1 car times he has posted seem dead on, if a 14.88 at his DA is a 14.2 at sea level, then the LS1 cars time of a 14.0 is approximately a 13.3-4. What do you normally have for a 60ft time?....cuz if he was able to launch better he would probably beat ya by more, but since he can't use that to your advantage.


Kyle

 

My iroc can hold off the SS til about the last 3/4 of the track with its low end, then that 106.5 trap pulls away the irocs 101. Course the Iroc has drag radials, and that helps.

 

Here is my little 305HSR against an LS1. I got the kick since I have about half his HP.
http://www.transamws6.com/video/race.wmv