What do u mean HSR? I am not very mechanically inclined LOL, I dont even take this car to the track, I just want to embarass some guy in his new vette on the street. So any advice on which I should go with 180's/195's and what a good cam to go with it. I dont mind having to install a torque converter but like I said I wanna get as much as I can out of the car without getting into the bottom end, and without the car becoming a headache. Thanks again fellas

 

Dude???? Please tell me that this is a joke? You aren't seriously looking to drop down this kinda coin to beat "some guy with a new vette" and NOT street racing I hope. If you feel some burning need to try to beat this guy, find a local track and do it safely....don't risk your life, his life and whoever else is around...not too mention the potential of getting a fatty ticket and/or being arrested and possibly losing your vehicle for good.

 

I would def. look into a 195cc head thats for sure. Are you set on AFR? You know there is usually a couple month wait right? Heck for the price of the AFR you could probably have some ported Trick Flows that would def. outperform the AFR's. Like previously stated, I would look into a custom cam once you choose your heads, that way it would match your combo perfectly. HSR would also be a GREAT upgrade. Its relatively inexpensive and an easy install as well. With a good set of heads, HSR, and a custom cam, and a good tune you should make very good power and maintain stock bottom end. It would also be a blast to drive as well.

 

HSR = Holley Stealth Ram

The HSR is designed to work with heads in the 195 range (using a Felpro 1205 intake gasket). The TPI really can't take advantage of the 195's flow potential, but you could use the 195's anyway and upgrade the intake later. The HSR is not emissions legal, so factor that into your plans.

To be honest with you, I think you're probably going to have a hard time keeping up with a new C6 - unless you really want to lean on the motor (which means eventually you'll go into the short block), or add nitrous (again eventually going into the short block). The new C6 is the total package - runs 12's and still is a daily driver friendly.

If you are not mechanically inclined, like you said, this may be a bit beyond your level - unless you have some good help available. If you don't, then I would strongly suggest you find some. Not to say you can't do it (we all have to learn sometime - I'm still fighting my setup ), but you're taking on a pretty large challenge. The 180 / TPI / CC304/305 combo will give you some nice power (probably not C6 beating) and will take the least amount of custom fabricating to get put together.

 

LOL, Theres no guy with a vette that im gunnin for it was just a figure of speechand the car is more a show car but I still want it to be a go car. Im not a "street racer" either, but theres nothing wrong with showing somebody ups light to light.

Im not gonna change the TPI set-up, and will probably end up with the AFR 180's. Is the CC304/305 cam the one I want to go with or can I go bigger? Will I be able to use all my stock parts for this cam or am I gonna have to get pushrods and all that good ****.

I think this set-up especially with the rear-end will be able to take the vette maybe not in the 1/4 but light to light (1/8) mile it might, but im no expert. Thanks again fellas

 

You can go bigger, but the TPI is going to be the limiting factor. I'm running the CC305 with an extrude honed TPI + 52mm TB, and it starts to fall off at higher RPMs. That's why I'm going with the HSR.

Another problem with the bigger cams is that tuning will become an issue - you'll have to burn a custom chip for whatever cam you choose and a stall convertor will likely be necessary if you go bigger than the CC304.

If your parts are in good shape, you could probably reuse the lifters. You'll have to get HD hardened pushrods (if you are going to run guideplates) and adjustable roller rocker arms (or you can get self-aligning roller rocker arms and skip the guideplates). Since you are going to that extent, I'd replace the lifters as well - and have a 100% new valvetrain.

Good luck, and have fun!

 

Those Edlebrocks suck. Stay away from them for the TPI, they are one of the worst flowing headers and you will see minimal gains. Vortec heads would work fine. You don't need a real small cam, that just depends on other factors. If you want to make good power you should def look into a HSR, you can't get a good set of runners, and base manifold for the price of the HSR and it certainly would not equal the potential of the HSR. HSR and vortec, AFR, or Trick Flows w/ a matching cam would be really good combo. Any good combo will require tuning and certainly the best form of that would be a Dyno tune, don't let that keep you away from the more stout combo's that could be attained.

FYI: I ran a LT4 hotcam w/ the modified TPI and it ran great w/ a crappy tune. CC305 should be fine w/ the TPI as even if you retain the long runner setup, you would just need a good base, and good flowing runners.

 

I've got the SLP 1-3/4" shorties - they seem to be pretty good (came with the car).

He seems committed to the TPI, so the HSR is out. The Vortec setup that Robvas mentioned would be pretty good. I read that the fast-burn heads need a header with a LT4 flange, so I don't know which headers they would require on a 3rd gen. Suggestions anyone?

I also think the CC305 would be fine with any of the mentioned setups - but no bigger w/ the TPI.