HUGE STARTER PROBLEMS - This will be 7TH STARTER IN 2 YEARS
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This issue of the starter hitting the flywheel and actually not engaging the teeth is another cursed Chevy problem. I've seen it on some cars and no matter what starter the owner puts on, it does not solve the problem.
No, headers don't normally cause this problem.
Usually the issue can be resolved by shimming the starter but it's not as easy as it sounds, it takes an experienced person to do it. That's why most wrench monkeys just offer to install a new starter, hoping that it will fix the problem. But what do they care, it's not their own car.
Find somebody who deals with starters and knows what the word "shimming" means and take it to them.
Maybe a silly question but does your flywheel have the correct tooth-count?
Lou
No, headers don't normally cause this problem.
Usually the issue can be resolved by shimming the starter but it's not as easy as it sounds, it takes an experienced person to do it. That's why most wrench monkeys just offer to install a new starter, hoping that it will fix the problem. But what do they care, it's not their own car.
Find somebody who deals with starters and knows what the word "shimming" means and take it to them.
Maybe a silly question but does your flywheel have the correct tooth-count?
Lou
It's going back tomorrow and I'll be demanding a new starter again.
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FIXED!! (I think)
Ok. We MAY have the fix to all the YEARS of starter issues..
I took the car back to the original shop who I bought that Mini-starter from (20+ years in business) and the original owner was there. He's claims he's an experts with not other the starters but the electrical techniques to fixing problems like mine. He tried starting it several times and then finally it locked. He explained this is a very common problem he deals with and explained that this can occur when the ignition has likely worn down that results in a lower than required current to get to the solenoid. While it's enough to push the solenoid out, it needs the extra full current to PUSH it into the mesh of the flexplate gear otherwise once it hits the gear, it doesn't have any excess push to push it thru..
He explained that if it were a shimming issue that we would hear grinding and that the headers had nothing to do with any of the starter issues.
He said he would add an extra relay solenoid on the firewall hooked to the ignition. The ignition would power the secondary relay, and in turn supply the extra power to power the starter solenoid fully. So far no problems and now It can crank over with like a quick flick of the ignition! WOW!
Only time will tell if this is the fix I have waited for, for YEARS! 6 starters :-(
Ok. We MAY have the fix to all the YEARS of starter issues..
I took the car back to the original shop who I bought that Mini-starter from (20+ years in business) and the original owner was there. He's claims he's an experts with not other the starters but the electrical techniques to fixing problems like mine. He tried starting it several times and then finally it locked. He explained this is a very common problem he deals with and explained that this can occur when the ignition has likely worn down that results in a lower than required current to get to the solenoid. While it's enough to push the solenoid out, it needs the extra full current to PUSH it into the mesh of the flexplate gear otherwise once it hits the gear, it doesn't have any excess push to push it thru..
He explained that if it were a shimming issue that we would hear grinding and that the headers had nothing to do with any of the starter issues.
He said he would add an extra relay solenoid on the firewall hooked to the ignition. The ignition would power the secondary relay, and in turn supply the extra power to power the starter solenoid fully. So far no problems and now It can crank over with like a quick flick of the ignition! WOW!
Only time will tell if this is the fix I have waited for, for YEARS! 6 starters :-(
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Thanks a lot for posting the solution to your problem, it will hopefully help others in the future.
The cause you described makes a lot of sense, since there are a lot of contacts in the path of the current to the starter solenoid, including switches and relays.
Once again, thank you for posting the outcome, that's always very helpful.
Lou
The cause you described makes a lot of sense, since there are a lot of contacts in the path of the current to the starter solenoid, including switches and relays.
Once again, thank you for posting the outcome, that's always very helpful.
Lou
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Thanks a lot for posting the solution to your problem, it will hopefully help others in the future.
The cause you described makes a lot of sense, since there are a lot of contacts in the path of the current to the starter solenoid, including switches and relays.
Once again, thank you for posting the outcome, that's always very helpful.
Lou
The cause you described makes a lot of sense, since there are a lot of contacts in the path of the current to the starter solenoid, including switches and relays.
Once again, thank you for posting the outcome, that's always very helpful.
Lou
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