Guys That Hvae Motor Knowledge Inside Please....
Guys That Hvae Motor Knowledge Inside Please....
I Have two seperate questions here. I am going to buy an L98 Third gen soon. I want at least 400 rwhp out of it. How would I go about doing this cheaply?
Secondly, how much would a decent 396 or 406 stroker be to build the L98 into?
Thank you for your time.
Secondly, how much would a decent 396 or 406 stroker be to build the L98 into?
Thank you for your time.
Well, 400rwhp isn't all that cheap if you do it on motor. I think you'll find that a 383 stroker will be your best bet, parts for that are readily available and cheaper than something like a 396.
Sorry I don't know much about the TPI motors, but from my limited knowledge I think you'd want to ditch the intake setup and go with a miniram. Plus that just looks cool!! I'd say get a nice forged 383 kit from summit or somewhere, Accel Miniram intake, long tube headers, and have someone match up a good heads and cam setup for you. Then get a good tune on it, I think you'll see 400rwhp if you do it right. Then, if you don't hit it, buy a used nitrous kit
Sorry I don't know much about the TPI motors, but from my limited knowledge I think you'd want to ditch the intake setup and go with a miniram. Plus that just looks cool!! I'd say get a nice forged 383 kit from summit or somewhere, Accel Miniram intake, long tube headers, and have someone match up a good heads and cam setup for you. Then get a good tune on it, I think you'll see 400rwhp if you do it right. Then, if you don't hit it, buy a used nitrous kit
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First off, you cant make a 406 out of an L98. a 406 is a .030 400 block.
You could do a 396, but I dont think they make cast steel cranks in that size. Therefore you have to buy a forged crank. Thats now cheap.
Really you should post what you mean by "cheap" Getting 400 hp to the wheels is gonna take some $ period.
You could do a 396, but I dont think they make cast steel cranks in that size. Therefore you have to buy a forged crank. Thats now cheap.
Really you should post what you mean by "cheap" Getting 400 hp to the wheels is gonna take some $ period.
Sorry but 396 = $
$ and 406 isn't possible (w/ an L98). 383 would be your best bet for 400 to the ground. The TPI setup isn't all that good. They can be heavily ported and with the right H/C make good numbers. Depending on your budget, a Miniram would be nice. I would think that a Stealth Ram + 383 =
. I don't think a stroker motor would enjoy seeing 6k rpm too often. Maybe I'm wrong? So:
383 L98
AFR's
Beasty Cam
Bigger Injectors
Correct Tuning
Longtubes
Heavily Ported TPI or Miniram
I could see that making 400 to the wheels. Good luck!
-Rippin
$ and 406 isn't possible (w/ an L98). 383 would be your best bet for 400 to the ground. The TPI setup isn't all that good. They can be heavily ported and with the right H/C make good numbers. Depending on your budget, a Miniram would be nice. I would think that a Stealth Ram + 383 =
. I don't think a stroker motor would enjoy seeing 6k rpm too often. Maybe I'm wrong? So:383 L98
AFR's
Beasty Cam
Bigger Injectors
Correct Tuning
Longtubes
Heavily Ported TPI or Miniram
I could see that making 400 to the wheels. Good luck!
-Rippin
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Originally posted by Rippin92RS
Sorry but 396 = $
$ and 406 isn't possible (w/ an L98). 383 would be your best bet for 400 to the ground. The TPI setup isn't all that good. They can be heavily ported and with the right H/C make good numbers. Depending on your budget, a Miniram would be nice. I would think that a Stealth Ram + 383 =
. I don't think a stroker motor would enjoy seeing 6k rpm too often. Maybe I'm wrong? So:
383 L98
AFR's
Beasty Cam
Bigger Injectors
Correct Tuning
Longtubes
Heavily Ported TPI or Miniram
I could see that making 400 to the wheels. Good luck!
-Rippin
Sorry but 396 = $
$ and 406 isn't possible (w/ an L98). 383 would be your best bet for 400 to the ground. The TPI setup isn't all that good. They can be heavily ported and with the right H/C make good numbers. Depending on your budget, a Miniram would be nice. I would think that a Stealth Ram + 383 =
. I don't think a stroker motor would enjoy seeing 6k rpm too often. Maybe I'm wrong? So:383 L98
AFR's
Beasty Cam
Bigger Injectors
Correct Tuning
Longtubes
Heavily Ported TPI or Miniram
I could see that making 400 to the wheels. Good luck!
-Rippin
The only way to get 400rwhp "cheaply" is with a healthy dose of nitrous oxide. Open up the intake (converted LT1 intake maybe?) and get headers and exhaust, stick a forced induction cam in it (they're also very good for nitrous applications) and shoot about a 150hp squirt into it. Then hope your pistons hold up. If they don't upgrade to fakies.
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Are you wanting to get good milage out of this? If not just go carb. Will save hassles over the intake. And shave off a few $ too
Hey Aklim...Iva always wondered what that huge list of engine mods you have there is sat down into? A third gen obviously but what kind?
Hey Aklim...Iva always wondered what that huge list of engine mods you have there is sat down into? A third gen obviously but what kind?
All together I'd like to get the motor completely built for $4000. I figure about $1000 to machine the block, maybe a bit more. I am thinking I might do the scoggin dickey vortec intake and and vortec heads setup. I have no idea how much that is. Then a matching cam.
I might be able to fit that all into $4000 pr maybe not. I am still planning at this point, hell I don't even have a car yet and won't for awhile, but I want a plan of action so I know what I'll be doing. Anyone else have any suggestions?
I might be able to fit that all into $4000 pr maybe not. I am still planning at this point, hell I don't even have a car yet and won't for awhile, but I want a plan of action so I know what I'll be doing. Anyone else have any suggestions?
Couple more things, I will be in Phoenix AZ, so I will need to pass emissions.
Also, this will NOT be my daily driver, so I can go slightly crazy with it, but not too wild. I need it streetable.
Also, this will NOT be my daily driver, so I can go slightly crazy with it, but not too wild. I need it streetable.
First, I'd say your a little too optimistic. 300 rwhp would more realistic in your parameters. I'd also forget about doing a stroker. For the marginal gain in torque you will pay alot more. I'd look at a solid 350. The money you save not stroking it, put into the heads. You could make 400 with a 350 and a carb but you'll never pass emissions. If it's just a sniffer test you could do it with a carb but you'd have to run a smallish cam to run clean at idle. For $4000 and emissions testing I think it's pretty much impossible. Best bet would be get a complete lt1 used and install it with a new cam and all the free mods and as many others as you can afford. This will get you near 300rwhp. Then you can add a 100 shot and hope it lives a while. 400 at the wheels is alot for a NA small block that can pass emissions.


