3rd Gen / L98 Engine Tech 1982 - 1992 Engine Related

compression question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 31, 2004 | 12:44 PM
  #1  
8_4_berlinetta_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 239
From: mobile alabama
compression question

well I have been having trouble with getting my car to start after finally putting in the rebuilt motor. everything is turning and im getting fuel and spark. the timing is right as far as I can tell since the cheap **** timing cover does not have a timing mark anyways a friend told me I have no compression but when I try to start it sometimes flames shoot out of my open headers would that be possible with no compression?
Old May 31, 2004 | 01:16 PM
  #2  
TheGreatJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,677
From: T-town
If you're firing out the exhaust you probably have a timing issue. Check and make sure the dist. is timed on the compression stroke and not on the exhaust stroke.....that's a very common mistake.

Also you really need a timing mark...otherwise there's no way to ever know if the timing is actually right. They make them where they bolt onto the timing cover bolts....you can get one for like $12 and just bolt it right on there.
Old May 31, 2004 | 01:19 PM
  #3  
8_4_berlinetta_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 239
From: mobile alabama
how do I check if the timing is on the right stroke also where can I buy a timing mark?
Old May 31, 2004 | 01:48 PM
  #4  
8_4_berlinetta_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 239
From: mobile alabama
would i need one for a 7 or 8 in balancer its a stock balancer
Old May 31, 2004 | 03:11 PM
  #5  
StealthElephant's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 672
From: New Jersey
You can use a piston stop if you want to find TDC on #1.
Old May 31, 2004 | 04:16 PM
  #6  
TheGreatJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,677
From: T-town
The stock balancer is like 6 3/4" so go with the 7" pointer. To find the compression stroke, take out the #1 plug and stick your finger in the hole while someone turns the engine over MANUALLY (i.e. with a socket on the balancer bolt.) When the engine's compression pushes your finger out of the hole, you're on the compression stroke. Continue to turn the engine until the timing mark lines up with 0* on the pointer, then pop the dist. cap off and make sure the rotor is pointing at the #1 plug wire. If not, pull the dist. and adjust the rotor accordingly.
Old May 31, 2004 | 05:02 PM
  #7  
aklim's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 3,249
If both valves on #1 are closed, and the timing mark lines up, that would work also, I would think
Old May 31, 2004 | 05:12 PM
  #8  
8_4_berlinetta_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 239
From: mobile alabama
ok I cant fit my finger in the hole LOL and the motor is sooo tight it when I try to turn it manually it feels like the bolt is going to snap
Old May 31, 2004 | 06:30 PM
  #9  
TheGreatJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,677
From: T-town
Doesn't have to be your finger. You can use a rag or anything light enough to be pushed out by the air pressure. I use a straight spark plug boot with a bolt in the end....it'll halfway seal the hole so it makes noise when it comes out. If you can't turn it by hand, you can try bumping the starter. You run the chance of having the engine turn past TDC though, which means starting all over.


Having both valves on #1 closed works, but that involves pulling the valve cover which can be a pain depending on the car. Sometimes it can also be hard to tell if they're closed all the way (at TDC exhaust stroke the exh valve is closing and the int is opening so they will both be nearly shut.)
Old May 31, 2004 | 06:33 PM
  #10  
8_4_berlinetta_'s Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 239
From: mobile alabama
valve cover is already off so there suppose to be closed right (valves)
Old May 31, 2004 | 09:08 PM
  #11  
TheGreatJ's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,677
From: T-town
With both valves on #1 closed and the timing mark lined up you're at TDC on the compression stroke. The rotor should be pointing at the #1 wire terminal.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Magenta_Hearts
New Member Introduction
4
Mar 25, 2015 10:24 AM
pimpss96
LT1 Based Engine Tech
4
Feb 12, 2015 01:28 PM
Carogna'sZ-28
Suspension, Chassis, and Brakes
0
Feb 3, 2015 07:04 PM
Red_94Formula
LT1 Based Engine Tech
1
Jan 22, 2015 12:17 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:12 PM.