well I can get a set of Camel backs for $1300+tax

Specs:

2.02 1.60 stainless steel valves
Comp cam springs
comp guid plates
screw in studs
retainers and seals
Bowl job and gasket matched

or

pay $2400+tax and get a set of AFR 195`s

I`m leaning to the camel backs since they are a good head and there rebuilt for $1000 less

What do you think. There going on a 383 with a comp 282S and a Team G intake. Going for 400-450hp

And I`m canadian so the prices up here are WAYYY more

 

Are you talking about the old camel hump heads that came out in the 60's?

 

I'm buying a rx7 that has a 355 swap in it. It has those heads. I know they are old but how good are they? What should I be looking at getting instead? This care will be driven everyday also.

 

Unless I am mistaken, camel back heads are steel heads which adds more weight to the front and is not as good as the aluminum heads for heat dissipation (must run lower compression)

I'd go with the AFR 195s

 

Not to mention that the AFRs have the benefit of 30+ years of technological improvement.

 

from who


2400cnd semes high

 

Well I know the engine is running low compression. He said he set it up that way because he drove it everyday. As will I. And with the gas prices they way they are I don't mind that a whole bunch. But how many hp would I get by getting say vortech heads over these? Or some other head that would be better thats going to cost oh around a $1,000. I know the engine is set up to run 87 octane gas.

 

A cheap set of protopline vortec heads will likely outflow the camel hump heads unless they got alot of work done too em. They are also ALOT cheaper. I see them go new on ebay for like $600 all the time.

CC-282S (SL) .570/.570 282/282 (236/236)

Is that your cam? I'd say run protopline vortec heads sept for the lift, they'd require more machining for that.. that'd easily reach your 400hp goal for less than $600 You can get Pro Action 200CC Aluminum Heads for $1k assembled on ebay with nice parts. I'd pick those over the camel humps ANY day of the week.. Its likely that they outflow the living **** out of any camel humped head you can find Most camel hump heads start off with 160-170 intake cc's and weigh a good 50-75lbs more than aluminum heads. You will also reach your 450hp goal pretty easily using those. FWIW: My bro has ported AFR 190cc heads on his turd gen, using a 230/236 cam.. they are freakin awesome.

Peace,
Josh

 

Man if you know where to get them cheaper tell me.

Agostino Racing in toronto there the AFR dealer that is closest to me

They had a silver LS1 Z28 runing 8`s in the 1/4 it was in hotrod I think. They said it`s the fastest street legal LS1 camaro that they know of

I thought the camel backs were iron?
They are the Camel back from the 60`s
Any on have a link to those protopline vortecs?

The compcams 282S that I`m looking at is:
XS282S-10

dur 282in 288ex
dur@.050 244/252
lift .520in .540ex
LSA 110

 

vortec heads are far better than even ported camel hump heads. (not camel back).

Dude, do some research. You're going to need some compression, at least 10-1 minimum, and that cam you are looking at is too big for the street. Always err on the conservative side. Something in the 220-230 range is the biggest you'll ever need on the street. My little 355 with AFR heads puts out about 430 hp with a little 218/224 hydraulic roller cam, it has great street manners and even gets decent mileage.

 

220/230 @.050 right?

I was talking to HeavyChevySS and he said he had a smaller cam in his 383 and diddn`t like it at all he was running high 13`s in the 1/4 he said he`s putting the 282S in his 383.

you also have a rollercam, I have a non roller block so I can`t put a roller in. Well I can but they cost $1200 for a cam and lifter set so I`m going Soild flat tappet and after the 383 goes in it`ll be a weekend car only. so I don`t really care about gas mileage and she`ll be seen the track alot and I REALLY want the mean *** idle that will come with this cam, I want people to know I have somthing big under my hood

But if you know of a soild flat tappet Compcam that is simaller to your roller I`ll check it out. Oh and I`m going with a 10-10.5 CR 94 oct should handle that.

I REALLY want to dip into the 11`s N/A and no bottle, So I guess I`ll save up for the AFR 195`s

 

afr heads is the way to go. with a 383 you should actually consider the bigger afr's. 195's are designed to be a street head with smaller port volume and high velocity. with a 383 you should go to 210's or something like that. There are also some other good heads out there (like Brodix etc) that might be a bit cheaper than afr. I'd suggest checking out mail order houses before you drop big cash at Agostino's.

An aluminum head lets you go to higher compression which allows you to regain some of your lost driveability with the big cam. AFR heads have an awesome chamber design, so you can (and should) go to at least 11-1. that cam would probably work for you using the higher compression. go with a flat top forged or good hyperutectic piston, (not domed) set up the rest of the intake to match the flow rates, and you'll be golden.

Don't forget, that T5 will never handle the kind of power we're talking about here. (T5's will die on the track with good traction behind a decent 305.) Strip cars are faster with an auto. Watch the body flex on the t roof car also. You'll pop the t's right out on a hard launch. (i've heard of it happening). You might be better off with a hard top.

just my .02 from someone who's been there.

 

are they the fully cnc'd ones

 

try summit or jegs. they're some of the cheapest sources for hipo parts

 

I'm gonna be running the 282S in a 383 with AFR 195's this summer. I've already ordered the 195's and I can't wait to get this beast on the street.


I'd leave the camel humps to the antique collectors and get some Vortec heads at least. However, you'll need some upgrades on those to run a cam with any lift. I don't know what you plan on doing with the car, but you couldn't pay me to run a flat-tappet cam with less than 230@.050 duration in a 383. Of course I'm all about ***** out performance, and I really couldn't care less about any power below 3500rpm.....