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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Anyone else have a loose steering column?

It was loose since I bought the car back in like May.
Just curious if it is normal. Maybe someone tried to jack the car at one time?
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:07 PM
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Is it loose at the tilt swivel joint? If not, where?

BTW, I used to live in Lubbock. That was a long time ago when I was going to TTU.
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Yea loose swivel, I suppose. I can take a video of it when I get a chance.
It kinda seems like someone, over time, when getting in and out of the car, put pressure/weight on the top of the steering wheel.

I.....HATE.....LUBBOCK

Terrible place to keep a car clean. Dirt, wind, grime.... everywhere.

And everything is over priced in this city as well.

Only good thing is that scoggin dickey is down the road from me. Saves on shipping I suppose.
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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A common problem for GM tilt wheels. It can be fixed.
If you want to do it yourself, if you have trouble I can talk you through it...
1.)You must remove the steeering wheel.(you'll need a "wheel puller from an auto parts store like $10)
2.)Remove the snap ring & spring (a special spring compressor is needed, and can be bought at parts stores for like $12, and snap ring pliers like $8 at a hardware store.)
3.)Remove the screw securing the turn signal lever, and the metal piece it was securing to the signal switch. (remember how it's positioned)
4.)Remove the "turn signal cam switch", like 3, course screws.
5.)Now, under the dash you'll have to pop the wire connector off of the steering column, it's just clipped there to stay out of the way. This will give you some slack in the wiring to Pull the "turn signal switch" forwards a couple of inches, clearing the steering column center.
6.)Remove the "key reminder alarm", looks like a copper "bobby pin". This will give you access to the Ignition tumbler torx screw.
7.)Remove the ignition tumbler torx screw, and pull out the ignition key tumbler.
8.)Now you'll see 3 maybe 4 bright colored large torx screws. Remove them. Now the center cover of the column will be loose.
9.) Remove the "tilt lever", just unscrew it from the column.
10.)Slide the center cover off of the column, but first locate the dimmier switch cam and note how it's positioned, it's near the tilt lever, inside the cover.(a black plastic piece that pushes on the dimmer rod.)
11.)Now you should have access to the "tilt attachement" 11 point screws. You'll need a flashlight to look into the center of the column. They can be reached through the existing holes with a 1/4" drive wratchet using a long extension and a 1/4" - 11 point socket. There are 4, but you can only reach 3. It will however be enough....(upper left,lower left and lower right.)
Reassemble in reverse order, NOTE the steering wheel spring removed early on will need to be installed with the spring compressor, it's a stout spring!...
Also, the key reminder alarm has a spring that must be clipped to it properly before it'll fit back into the hole.

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Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:32 PM
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This is a typical problem with our tilt columns. There are two bolts within the column that tend to loosen over time. Tightening them is simple, getting to them is very difficult. Everything on the top end of the column must be removed to access the bolts, including turn signal switch, ignition switch, headlamp dimmer.... everything. You'll need a Torx socket for the bolts -- can't recall the size. Also, I had to grind down the socket itself so it would slip through an access hole to one of the bolts.... What a pain.

I really didn't like Lubbock either. It's totally flat, surrounded by farmland (dust storms in the spring) and there wasn't much to do. A joke among my friends is that Lubbock is at least six hours away from any civilization (Dallas!). When I lived there, Scoggin Dickey was not selling performance parts, they were simply a GM dealership (Buick and Olds, right?).

Willie
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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Check out this link. It has to be by far one of the best internet articles I have yet seen. I found this on the Astro/Safari Van site, but this is an f-body (the assemblies are apparently the same).

Pictural Steering Wheel Adjustment

Who has time to do this?
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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Air Bag???

Ok Guys,
I have the same problem, but when I look at my steering wheel I see an air bag staring back at me. Any help on getting the wheel off without triggering that?

Laurie
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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Yes, remove the "S.R.S." (air bag) fuse. Then remove the 4 -10mm headed screws securing it from the back. Remove the Air Bag assembly by detaching the "horn" and "detenation" wires. It'll be safe now...but "do NOT probe these wires with any meters etc", it could detenate if you do!...
The only other difference is the cover, just under the steering wheel, it must be reinstalled with the bulge centered straight up between the notches. You'll see what I mean if you look carefully before removal.
Now the rest is as above, reinstall in reverse order, the fuse being LAST...
My '90 has an air bag, I've had it apart several times, once for this reason too...
Old Dec 7, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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Thanks,

I just got the car in October and it has a few things that it needs this being one of them and me being a little intimidated by the air bag.

Old Dec 7, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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I dont think I posted this yet...

But here is my wheel, at least:

ftp://68.1.231.79/car/wheel.AVI
Old Dec 8, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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Nice car and wheel, same color as mine. You also have the Air Bag, sorry I didn't catch it before. Just remove the S.R.S. fuse(s) before working on it...
Old Dec 8, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by 90rocz
Nice car and wheel, same color as mine.
Thanks.
Air bags scare me. Not sure if I wanna do this by myself.
Plus its last on my list right now.
Hopefully someday.
Old Dec 8, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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Re: Anyone else have a loose steering column?

Originally posted by Pro
It was loose since I bought the car back in like May.
Just curious if it is normal. Maybe someone tried to jack the car at one time?
If it is loose at the tilt area, you will need to pull the steering wheel and the turn signal cam behind it off. You will find 3 torx bolts down there . These commonly loosen up on the GM columns.
They are relatively easy to get to, just tighten them up.
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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One thing I forgot to mention is that the turn signal lever needs to be changed as well. Can I just pick up one of those levers that they have at like autozone? (They look identical).
My truck has one that looks very much like it as well... In fact it just feels like a better plastic. Curious if they are interchangeable.

Here are a couple of pictures of the two:

ftp://68.1.231.79/cruise/truck.JPG
ftp://68.1.231.79/cruise/camaro.JPG
Old Dec 10, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Yeah, they should just pull straight out, but the harness plugs in under the steering column and is threaded down through it.
You'll have to pull on the wiring while looking under there and trace and unplug the original. The hard part is threading the new one down through the column, I've done it but it takes MUCH patience...
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