6.0 liter swap?
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6.0 liter swap?
Im considering a 6.0 liter LS1 style truck block swap in my IROC. I found a place that has pretty hot deals on short blocks. And ive had some experience with these motors. They have hardcore potential.
Just curious, would I just follow the protocal for a basic LS1 swap in doing this? Or is there something different about the 6.0 liters that would factor in?
Just curious, would I just follow the protocal for a basic LS1 swap in doing this? Or is there something different about the 6.0 liters that would factor in?
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Originally posted by Pasky
Its the same block, don't see what would be any different. SHould go on just like a LS1. You may need to check out the accesory routing and oil pan. Pretty sure the oil pan will not fit, just get one for a f-body.
Its the same block, don't see what would be any different. SHould go on just like a LS1. You may need to check out the accesory routing and oil pan. Pretty sure the oil pan will not fit, just get one for a f-body.
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Originally posted by doug791
i thought you were building a 4xx sbc motor? Give up on that?
i thought you were building a 4xx sbc motor? Give up on that?
Actually all my projects are on hold for the next moth because Im switching jobs, and trying my damdest to get an LS1 daily driver.
You can NOT run the stock pan that comes on a 6L. The truck pans are something like 3-4" deeper, and therefore does not fit with F-car crossmembers and may even come close to hitting the ground.
You will have to buy a F-car oil pan.
Eric
You will have to buy a F-car oil pan.
Eric
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Originally posted by LT1Powered85Z
You can NOT run the stock pan that comes on a 6L. The truck pans are something like 3-4" deeper, and therefore does not fit with F-car crossmembers and may even come close to hitting the ground.
You will have to buy a F-car oil pan.
Eric
You can NOT run the stock pan that comes on a 6L. The truck pans are something like 3-4" deeper, and therefore does not fit with F-car crossmembers and may even come close to hitting the ground.
You will have to buy a F-car oil pan.
Eric
Also I dont supose anyone knows how much power the stock 6.0 liter cranks can handle? I'll definetely buy aftermarket rods, but I was thinking of trying to sneak by with a stock crank if its reasonable. Also how much overbore can the blocks take?
im not sure what kind of induction ur gonna go w/,but ive heard alot that the 6L's are TERRIBLE on gas. not trying to burst ur bubble or anything...just wanna give u a heads up if u havent heard of it before.
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It will either be a nitrous motor or a TT set-up if I come upon a little moremoney. And this would be a toy anyway, its not anywhere near a daily driver. Might even endup being a trailer queen so gas milage is a non-factor.
Originally posted by DarthIROC
So will the stock pan off of a LS1 Z work?
Also I dont supose anyone knows how much power the stock 6.0 liter cranks can handle? I'll definetely buy aftermarket rods, but I was thinking of trying to sneak by with a stock crank if its reasonable. Also how much overbore can the blocks take?
So will the stock pan off of a LS1 Z work?
Also I dont supose anyone knows how much power the stock 6.0 liter cranks can handle? I'll definetely buy aftermarket rods, but I was thinking of trying to sneak by with a stock crank if its reasonable. Also how much overbore can the blocks take?
I believe you can put quite a bit of power out with 6.0 internals, even the stock rods. Unless you're looking to run 500+hp, you should be fine with stock internals, from what I have learned.
Rice Killer87: The cubic inch dimensions of the block don't have much to do with the gas mileage of a set-up, other than assuming more cubic inches usually means less mileage. The heads and injection system and the vehicles they're in are what play the largest part as far as mileage.
Getting a 6.0 block doesn't instantly mean you'll get poor mileage.
Eric
Originally posted by DarthIROC
It will either be a nitrous motor or a TT set-up if I come upon a little moremoney. And this would be a toy anyway, its not anywhere near a daily driver. Might even endup being a trailer queen so gas milage is a non-factor.
It will either be a nitrous motor or a TT set-up if I come upon a little moremoney. And this would be a toy anyway, its not anywhere near a daily driver. Might even endup being a trailer queen so gas milage is a non-factor.
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Originally posted by doug791
ugh ive never understood the fascination with twin turbos in V8's. Point and case being that a car around here (roguevette) runs 9.7 on E/T streets using a 4.xL V6 single turbo setup. With the amount of torque a 6.0L could put out and how quickly a large single turbo would kick in you wouldnt notice the millisecond of turbo lag and with that single turbo you could make 1200 hp without too much trouble which is far more then you want.
ugh ive never understood the fascination with twin turbos in V8's. Point and case being that a car around here (roguevette) runs 9.7 on E/T streets using a 4.xL V6 single turbo setup. With the amount of torque a 6.0L could put out and how quickly a large single turbo would kick in you wouldnt notice the millisecond of turbo lag and with that single turbo you could make 1200 hp without too much trouble which is far more then you want.
Originally posted by LT1Powered85Z
Rice Killer87: The cubic inch dimensions of the block don't have much to do with the gas mileage of a set-up, other than assuming more cubic inches usually means less mileage. The heads and injection system and the vehicles they're in are what play the largest part as far as mileage.
Getting a 6.0 block doesn't instantly mean you'll get poor mileage.
Eric
Rice Killer87: The cubic inch dimensions of the block don't have much to do with the gas mileage of a set-up, other than assuming more cubic inches usually means less mileage. The heads and injection system and the vehicles they're in are what play the largest part as far as mileage.
Getting a 6.0 block doesn't instantly mean you'll get poor mileage.
Eric
anyway,back to the original thread...
Trucks and SUVs are much heavier and have deeper gears to make up for the acceleration loss caused by that extra weight. Big weight+deep gears=bad mileage no matter WHAT engine you have.
I think the iron-block 6.0 has a lot of potential.....if I had the time and money I'd probably build one myself (just to say I did.)
I think the iron-block 6.0 has a lot of potential.....if I had the time and money I'd probably build one myself (just to say I did.)
Originally posted by TheGreatJ
Trucks and SUVs are much heavier and have deeper gears to make up for the acceleration loss caused by that extra weight. Big weight+deep gears=bad mileage no matter WHAT engine you have.
Trucks and SUVs are much heavier and have deeper gears to make up for the acceleration loss caused by that extra weight. Big weight+deep gears=bad mileage no matter WHAT engine you have.
Eric


