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1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Re: 1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

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Thats my plan the WC T5's are pretty strong transmissions and should handle the 327 drop in, although eventually a 6 speed would be wanted.
Not to rain on your parade, but since when did the T5 become a strong tranny? IIRC they are not all that strong and tend to break under moderate engine mods. If you are swapping in a 327, I would look for something a little bit stronger then a T5.

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Old Nov 1, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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Re: 1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

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Not to rain on your parade, but since when did the T5 become a strong tranny? IIRC they are not all that strong and tend to break under moderate engine mods. If you are swapping in a 327, I would look for something a little bit stronger then a T5.

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The early T5's that seems to be the case, over at thirdgen.org there's guys running deep into the 13s and into the high 12s with T5's. Thats not bad.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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T5's aren't that bad, as long as you practice learning how to be a smooth shifter and take it easy on the clutch engagement. You are right, they can hold up as long as you dont abuse them terribly. There's some A-sedan club racers that are restricted to the T5 for competition, and the world-class (WC) T5's seem to make it through the race okay. Although the two guys I knew that did A-sedan racing had four spare T5's that they kept ready for track duty. An spare one always went into the truck on race day just in case.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Re: 1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

They may hold up ok under some circumstances, but in the world of manual trannies, the T5 doesn't rank near the top for strength/durability IMHO. There was a reason they didn't get used on the 350 TPI cars aside from emissions concerns.......and why GM went with the better and stronger T56 in the LT1/LSx cars......not to say they are junk, they just wouldn't be in my top 3 picks if I was starting from scratch on a car.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Agreed. However, as a starter stick-shift, it's probably okay until one can come up with the $2000 necessary to put in a T56 with a performance clutch.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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Re: 1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

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Agreed. However, as a starter stick-shift, it's probably okay until one can come up with the $2000 necessary to put in a T56 with a performance clutch.
Yup, the switch to the 6 speed is eventually going to happen if/when I find a car. But 2k is a lot of money and thats what it would cost for a good one.
Old Nov 1, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IrocManiac
Yup, the switch to the 6 speed is eventually going to happen if/when I find a car. But 2k is a lot of money and thats what it would cost for a good one.
U dont necessarily need a T56.....Tremec puts out a 3550 or a TKO that are 5 speeds.....the 3550 is rated up to 425 ft/lbs...and the TKO is rated at 525 ft/lbs....and they both bolt right up to your current bellhousing....
Old Nov 2, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Re: 1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

Originally Posted by ws6transam
Agreed. However, as a starter stick-shift, it's probably okay until one can come up with the $2000 necessary to put in a T56 with a performance clutch.
You make good sense, oh wise one.
Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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Re: 1989 should be the oldest 3rd gen I search for ????

Originally Posted by ws6transam
That said, the stock third-gen brakes are LIGHT DUTY parts that work for the street, drag race, and autocross. They wont fade in autocross where you are only tapping them to set the car for the corner. It's in road course work that you will run into brake troubles. It's there that you need the better brakes. An autocross run only lasts 40 to 60 seconds on average with speeds that rarely exceed 45 MPH. There just isnt enough time to push the limits in brake performance. Heck, autocross tires barely get time to heat up in the race. It's why road race compounds dont work very well in autocrossing. They cannot get heat in them quick enough.
I do know that if my brakes were better, I could drive harder towards the turns on the auto-x courses. To me, the brakes seem too weak for a 3400+lbs car.
I know that the Baer setup works awesome, my friend has them on his 82 T/A and they stop on a dime. I'll be converting to LS1 brakes up front very soon, can't wait.
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