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Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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It would not surprise me that when the new brembos are produced the camaro will have a recall to replace the calipers that have the weights on them (seriously though, I bet on a hot day in constant stop and go traffic the adhesive is going to give up. Especially if it is a twice a day, 5 day a week occurrence.
Old Jun 5, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Lead weights on a brake caliper really is a joke. If mine has them they are off before I take delivery. Literally.
Old Jun 6, 2009 | 09:45 AM
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THAT was precisely my point"ground control to major Tom".
Why do I have to get involved in removing wheels and chipping off weights off a caliper to "maybe" not even feel it at 90mph and warp factor 4....???
Is it not the responsibility of the General to produce a caliper that works and is acceptable on a car that has been raved about fot its BRAKES !!!
C'mon....I am not going to start re-engineering the calipers and taking the weights off as it might create vibration that is unwanted.
This is absurd. they better have a fix planned cause I have already started conversations at GM Canada on the customer line and will escalete this as much as I can.
If they can put Hyundai Accents to SLR's on the street with no weights to quell noise or vibration then why should our new "world calls Camaro" be any different.
I am real mad about these weights after all the money I spent.
Old Jun 6, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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And the point I think more important on this issue is,the problem that has probably surfaced occasionally under obscure circumstances has influenced less then a majority of engineers to be a legitimate problem,hence the ridiculous fix. 99% of owners that remove these weights will likely never experience any noise or vibration. Believe me if there was a legitimate real problem production would be stopped until this was corrected. This to me is really a non issue as of now. I think it's good your expressing your concern,to me hanging weights on a brake caliper is more of an eye sore then even a hazard. Although there is a real potential for it should they melt or break off and wedge in between the pads and caliper somehow. Like I said,"if mine still has them on when my is being PDI'd, I will take them off"
Old Jun 7, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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vin #13345 has the weights, still, only early build cars?
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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maybe it's time to get a few thousand V8 owners to begin a real serious conversation about this issue. I was playing with mine yesterday and they are not very rigid. they could EASILY fall off in certain situations. (heavy rain , bad roads, snow and ice etc...)
This seems like a major hazard in terms of what if a weights or a clump of weights fell off on an interstate and went flying into a bad spot under the car and damaged something or worse what if they fell off and went flying into a windshield of another car at 70-100mph. This could kill somebody.
Anybody willing to join me in a letter to GM??
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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They are not going to be,"real rigid" With the fluctuations in heat the glue is designed to remain flexible throughout all heat ranges. This helps maintain it's composition, keeping it's adhesive properties in tact. As for the lead,that doesn't really shed heat very well.
I understand your apprehension but until I'm able to get my car, pull the weights off and determine what if any effect it has, starting a campaign for this is a little premature in my opinion.
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 09:53 AM
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Well I am not willing to start taking off the weights and screwing with it because GM put them on at the factory for a reason. I dont want to modify any GM work and do any of my own in house engineering as the dealer and GM might come back to me on this. The weights are not secure. plain and simple. if an owner drives this in a canadian ice storm on the highway a chunk of ice could easily snap them off.
I have contacted Brembo North America and have the name of a senior guy with his number and have notified the dealer who will be forwarding this to GM canada at a senior level. We must put pressure on GM about this issue as a group or nothing will happen. This is an unacceptable, cobbled together fix on a stupendous and stunning prioduct. many cars are affected as you know.
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Can anyone confirm that the weights are all the same weight from car to car?
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 04:16 PM
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how would you be able to know unless everyone compared exact weights and number of them.... I know mine are stacked 3 high and some pics I have seen are stacked 2 high...
Old Jun 8, 2009 | 07:03 PM
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That is bizarre. I would not expect a differential factor on this? Now that leaves me scratching my melon.
BTW; Did the brembo person give you any info?
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:54 AM
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complete stonewall so far. GM customer line told me to go see dealer. I went and spoke to Service Mgr at big Toronto GM store and it was a complete wate of time His comment was : " Do you expect us to re-engineer the brakes on your car sir??"
I have also left a message on Brembo website and a guy at Brembo's voice mail and compltely no reply.
We have strength in numbers and every car is getting this brake fix. Saw a brand new SS with at Addison's in Toronto yesterday and it had the weights on calipers. If nobody wants to join and fight GM on this then I guess we live with it....and the thread dies. enjoy your ugly weights on your calipers guys.
seems to be no interest here.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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mine doesnt have the weights on it.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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GM customer line told me to go see dealer.
That's a standard response. They do not have engineering technical support hot line as engineers usually are not good with people.

I went and spoke to Service Mgr at big Toronto GM store and it was a complete wate of time His comment was : " Do you expect us to re-engineer the brakes on your car sir??"
I know that's that the GM customer support said to do, but what else did you expect the dealer to do?

If nobody wants to join and fight GM on this then I guess we live with it....and the thread dies. enjoy your ugly weights on your calipers guys. seems to be no interest here.
There's plenty of interest in it, but I think people are more interested in a solution than "joining a fight". I am not any happier with the situation than anyone else, but I have no interest in taking a class action-style, hard line approach to this.

I suggest remove them if you hate them that much and see what happens. If it is anything like the Cadillac CTS noise, you will possibly hear a whine when moving/braking slowly. If you don't, you are golden.
Old Jun 10, 2009 | 09:23 AM
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not so much a fight as an organized group of people who tell GM/Brembo that a cobbled together Caliper is not acceptable in a world class car and what are they going to do about it??
We have thousands of owners with this but maybe most have not noticed "yet"....
Anyways seems like a waste of time so gonna live with it. My black paint is loaded with white blotches under the clear coat on the hood also but will live with that too as I dont want to repaint anything. The joys of early production cars. Whatever.



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