Can you even read? That's so far from what he said, it's not even funny.

That said, I disagree with LandonElf's claim that additional rotating mass can be negated by gearing. You can compensate for lost acceleration with gearing, but additional rotating mass does more than just hurt acceleration.

 

uh, he said that rolling mass could be made up with gearing? Now youre screwed on the top end which is retarded. I dont want a drag car. So go ahead, enlighten me...

 

Yes, that's essentially what he said.

That is one of many reasons that changing gearing does not completely compensate for additional rolling mass. However, the top speed of a car is largely irrelevant -- how much time does a typical owner spend at their car's top speed? Even less time than they spend drag racing, that's for sure.

Here are a handful of other negative effects caused by increasing the weight of the wheels, none of which are addressed by changing gearing:
- increased unsprung weight negatively affects ride quality
- reduced tire profile negatively affects ride quality
- increased overall mass negatively affects braking and handling performance
- increased rotating mass negatively affects braking performance

That's just a start...

 

Now were on the same page. I never said anything about top speed, I said top end. Now youre winding out the gears when before you would be just cruising. Lower gearing would cause worse gas milege. I guess I have a problem with the word irrelevent in that post. Sounds like an easy way to loose sight of a mission statement. Adjusting gearing is very signifigant...

 

If they make the V6 with 302 hp like I would like them to, then yes, especially to clear the larger brakes to go with the grunt.

 

A camaro, to me, is a performance car. I believe 20s aren't optimal for street, drag, or autoX. For looks, go for it, if that's your thing. personally, I think 20s are too big for a car...any car.

 

The camaro is a god damned MUSCLE CAR. For Christ sakes let it BE a MUSCLE CAR! If you want something ghetto fabulous then buy a SUV and drop it wit tha twennyfo's!


die thread

 

Thank you

 

18" should be the limit. 20s look stupid.

 

Got this mixed up and posted this on another thread, but meant to post it here:

I have no idea of course, which model this is...???

 

personally I think 19" an up are for people interested in looks (some demographic group that likes cartoonish looking cars, not everybody) and don't have any value from a performance standpoint, specially if you are going to have a lowly 6 cylinder engine moving them, as someone said 20s look stupid.

The base six should have simpler wheels, probably 16s to differentiate from the Z28 or any SS model that might be offered.

 

I've read a number of times that the car has been engineered to take 24inch wheels. The concept may have larger-than-usual wheels, but they aren't far off base in my opinion. My Monaro came with 19inch wheels from the factory - and the VXR8 comes with 20s. Given those gargantuan wheel arches anything smaller than 19/20 (staggered) is going to make the car look like a tonka toy.

I for one, love the concept look and will aim to get as close as I can to that look. I hear the wheels may be available in the parts catalogue... :P

 

i hope 20 inch wheels are not an option

 

I've never understood the desire to not have something as a OPTION.

I can understand saying you don't want 20" wheel STANDARD, but not allowing someone else to have what THEY want because you don't want it makes no sense.

 

I didn't read the whole thread but, 20 inch tires aren't ungodly expensive anymore. A cheaper tire for my truck is about $135. Sure. more expensive than tire for a civic, but certainly not the $300 a pop I have seen mentioned in this thread.