Bye-Bye to GM's V-8s
#1
Bye-Bye to GM's V-8s
I saw this article on the Car and Driver website today, and though it might be of interest.
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...8s.html?al=104
Could this mean a turbo six for the Z28?
Just thought I'd start a fire
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...8s.html?al=104
Could this mean a turbo six for the Z28?
Just thought I'd start a fire
#3
Yeah horsepower-wise it might be ok, i mean a new CTS with a 300 horse V6 has more power than my LT1
A V6 definately wouldnt give the same torque as a V8 with out a turbo or supercharger.
But the V8 sound is a must. I dont want people mistaking my Camaro for a civic
A V6 definately wouldnt give the same torque as a V8 with out a turbo or supercharger.
But the V8 sound is a must. I dont want people mistaking my Camaro for a civic
#5
I saw this article on the Car and Driver website today, and though it might be of interest.
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...8s.html?al=104
Could this mean a turbo six for the Z28?
Just thought I'd start a fire
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...8s.html?al=104
Could this mean a turbo six for the Z28?
Just thought I'd start a fire
This idea overall is as silly as Ford dropping the Mustang for the fed Probe...
#6
this "modern world where fuel-efficiency and emissions standards are redefining the cars and trucks of tomorrow." SUCKS.
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#7
Lighten up guys. While meeting future emission standards will be difficult, this news only applies to Cadillac and the twin overhead cam Northstar replacement which was being developed for SUVs and large sedans.
Camaro will continue to have a V8 option and with AFM, I'm not convinced a V6 would be any more efficient than a V8. If however GM decides to eliminate the V8 altogether, perhaps we'd be better off if the Camaro were killed for good.
Camaro will continue to have a V8 option and with AFM, I'm not convinced a V6 would be any more efficient than a V8. If however GM decides to eliminate the V8 altogether, perhaps we'd be better off if the Camaro were killed for good.
#8
Thanks for clearing that up, the specifics are sorta lost in the sauce of the writing. I missed it myself.
#9
“So we’re going to see a lot of engine downsizing,” Lutz tells Car and Driver. “What has been V-8 will become V-6, and what was V-6 will become fours. That is a relatively inexpensive ($1500–$2000) solution.” Even with the investment, “it will not get you from 25 mpg to 35 mpg. It will get you part way there.”
Many existing V-8s will remain, Lutz says, “but I don’t see anybody investing a ton of money into families of all-new V-8s.”
Many existing V-8s will remain, Lutz says, “but I don’t see anybody investing a ton of money into families of all-new V-8s.”
Hopefully the LS family will continue to grow, but I don't know why they would cut out high tech quad cam engines instead of pushrod
#10
Every time someone like Lutz says something the words get taken out of context. For example, I don't think that GM will be able to make a full-size work truck without a V8 engine.
I guess I am trying to say that I won't think the sky is falling until it actually lands on me. I apply this to anything automotive, especially the Camaro.
I guess I am trying to say that I won't think the sky is falling until it actually lands on me. I apply this to anything automotive, especially the Camaro.
#11
There's constant doom and gloom when everything comes about. Take a look at the Z06 and look at the gas mileage it gets. It's almost as good as my 1997 V6 Camaro, which is rated at 17/27 (At least, the paperwork says that, I'm getting much better) With AFM, we'll still have V8 power with better fuel economy. Gas guzzling SUVs such as my old 1992 Ford Exploder however... Well, no need to go into depth on that.
What's the line Scott always preaches? "Have Faith"
What's the line Scott always preaches? "Have Faith"
#12
Keep in mind guys, GM has a new more efficient 4.5L diesel V8 on the horizon. Its very likely it will replace the mid-range gas powered V8s in trucks and SUVs at some point, while bigger V6s are used for the entry level low-end versions.
#13
I saw this article on the Car and Driver website today, and though it might be of interest.
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...8s.html?al=104
Could this mean a turbo six for the Z28?
Just thought I'd start a fire
http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/...8s.html?al=104
Could this mean a turbo six for the Z28?
Just thought I'd start a fire
A tuned 4.0 version 3.6 DI v6 should at least match the 340 hp that the 5.7 Hemi that the Challenger R/T will probably get (the one the Charger R/T has).
I’m more a sports car guy who wants a back seat than a muscle car guy, so I may be in a pretty small minority. But give the choice between an L76 and a 3.0-3.2L twin turbo DI v6 that made similar power, I would take the v6. I think the v6 would offer lighter weight, better mileage and a power curve that would probably make the six-speed more interesting.
It might not burble right at a red light, but it would go like stink & make serious gains from mods (judging by the Sky/Sol twins & the BMW 335).
#15
No way would I ever buy a V6. I have had way too many crappy V6's. I would rather have a 4 banger. I would like an "extra" button that would run only 4 cylinders except with the "extra" button is press then it is a V8. But no way would I ever own a V6 Camaro. I don't car if I bought a new car and put in a V8 create engine.