I agree, Ford is going to have to something about the 4.0 or lose a lot of magazine shootouts.

You can get substantially all the same high rev benefits out of SOHC & DOHC. The benefit of the second cam (with VVT) is the ability to change intake and exhaust overlap on the fly.

For a base motor, I might take pushrod over SOHC for the weight & packaging advantages, but DOHC brings some real increases in power & efficiency to the party.

BTW: am I the only one wondering if the CTS engine cover is there not because it came witht the engine, but to make it hard to tell which 3.6 that is (or if it is a new LY7 derivative)? I think we could at least tell if it was port injected or direct injected if not for the cover.

 

If there were no V6 Mustang or Camaro, then the cars would either not exist or the only ones that were available would be unattainable for the average enthusiast. The V6 models are the bread and butter that allow for the existence of affordable V8 models. Pony cars have always been this way.

 

The original Camaro (1967) and Mustang (1964) came with 6-cylinders.

Back then I think it was related to vehicle price, and not a need for vehicle economy. If you could afford the V8, of course you'd buy it because it was a lot more fun.

If the Camaro ends up with a 281hp V6, the performance is already there. In fact, it's more horsepower than a 1997 Camaro Z28 has.

 

Thats a 210 4.0 SOHC, Kid The only DOHC engine in the Mustang currently is the GT500 mill.

 

The original mustang I6 was a 170 cubic inch (2.8 liter) wonder with probably around 90hp in today's money. The four cylinder engine in today's family sedans is more powerful than the base Mustang V8 was (289 2v). One of the Ford magazines had a power build up article on one of those engines. It baselined at 141 rear wheel horsepower. Good enough for a neck snapping 17 second 1/4 mile.

 

Just saying, I see it as more affordable/but not as performance...


the 3.5L vvt ohv v6...


224 hp. not a powerhouse, but in base cars(like my base G6 sedan) 60* v6 has been around forever, even in f-bodies 2.8, 3.1, and 3.4L anyone? probably the most used basic design across the 3rd/4th gen platforms.

a D.I. 3.6L would be nice... but its only offered in a nice Caddy, unless they really cut costs, I don't see them putting this as the cheap base Camaro.


just an FYI...

my dad got his 94 stripper 3.4L camaro, no power 5-speed for $13k in 94 new off lot. Then he got his mildly loaded (power everything but cloth, no tops) 3.8L new off lot in 2k, for $15k


I don't seem them putting in the most powerful v6 gm offers on the market just by cost reasons

 

Except that GM has already said this is what they're going to do.

Remember that the Traverse base engine is the DI V6.
The Caddy version gets about 20 more hp, for what that's worth.

 

Who said that it would cost more? This engine is more expensive right now because they are assembling them in low volumes. Now if they started to buy them in bulk, to span across numerous platforms, that engine's price would start to come down.

 

The DI 3.6 has to cost more than the port injection 3.6 because of

Of course they could discontinue the non-DI version and make up the difference with more commonality of parts and better fuel economy.

 

So, when is a 4valve DI 4 cyl going to be made? Those are a little more important than the V8s as they sell more.

 

I think the LNF came out in 2006.

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com...rn_engine.html

But a (slightly larger?) NA version for the high volume cars would be a good idea.

 

but those parts even aftermarket add up to less than 500 dollars.

The Caddy DI engine comes as part of a trim level with other features for about 2k.

I'm equally interested in the boosted power and fuel economy. While GM needs to weigh their cost to build and price point, they also need to consider consumer needs. With rising fuel costs, we need more economical vehicles.

 

Also, if this has more or less confirmed, the 280ish or possibly more hp V6 rules out the 5.3L for the base V8 unless it gets revamped to push out at least 350 hp.

Personally I like the idea of an aluminum block destroked LSX reving to 8k and making 350 or so HP. With DI, it could get decent mileage as well.

 

So we know for sure it'll be the 3.6?

 

I don't think we know anything "for sure" about which engines will be used, I think it is all still speculation at this point in time.
Clyde