POWERFREAK

here's a similar article I read today.

I could see it having a few more HP...with better exhaust, tuning etc.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/c...-camaro-cheap/

Noth'nLikeaSmBlock

So, you're hoping for that 4.9L from the Denali XT concept? I think that I would be ok with that... I just don't want it to lose the LS series rumble. Starting up that LS series engine in the morning is one of the main reasons I was REALLY looking forward to this car.

Z284ever

The 4.9L is just a show car red herring right now. The Camaro should get afew ponies more than the Traverse as well.

Dragoneye

Heehee, no. Like Charlie said:

I had a feeling all along that's all it was (a theoretical engine), so - no. I was never expecting to see the 4.9L. I've just been really stoked about this 5th generation small-block stuff that I had to say something.

I think all the quote meant was that they are steering Camaro into new territory. No more is the Biggest, baddest, engine going to be the argument winner. Handling, agility - 0-60's are going to be more important. That will all be accomplished though less weight(more cost), and smaller, more potent engines. (i.e. Gen V small-blocks). The big, bad motors will just be bragging rights - and well earned at that!

Noth'nLikeaSmBlock

That all sounds good to me - and the v8 for less the $25k, right?? LOL

Dragoneye

Thanks...you gave me a subject to dream about, tonight.


hahaha

teal98

I think it's safe to say that the LS3 will be available in at least one model.

POWERFREAK

I hope so...if not, I may have to wait.

teal98

My take from the article is that they're aiming for volume. From reading this group, one might infer that all Camaro buyers want either a 2500 pound barebones coupe with 300hp or a 500hp monster (or at least that everyone needs to hear a V8 rumble). Out in the real world of real (millions of) buyers, people don't care about engine note, and they just want a nice, stylish car with some pep and good gas mileage.

I think the 281hp V6 will hit that straight on.

If you want a relatively inexpensive V8 model, better get one soon, however....

the kid 05

my opinion? I dont think a muscle car should come with an option of v6's but thats is yet again my opinion. I love Camaro's and Mustang's, no puscamaro or pusmustang though.

teal98

It's actually an sohc V6 with 12 valves, making 210hp. It's a relatively old design, as GM gets 220-240 with their ohv 12 valve 3.9. Further evidence of the old design is that EPA ratings are barely better than the 4.6 in the GT.

But it's probably cheap to make and enables a low base price. I have to think that a DI 3.6 Camaro with IRS will have to be priced at least $2-3k higher than the V6 Mustang.


Regarding weight, the base Commodores with the V6 come in around 3700 pounds IIRC. So maybe the base V6 Camaro will hit 3600, with some amount of success in the lightening campaign.

281hp and 3600 pounds should make for a mid 14s 1/4 mile -- maybe even low 14 on the right day with the right driver.

rasputin

I was hoping the v6 base would have the 300hp motor out of the CTS. If the Camaro gets the 3.6 DI V6 @ 281Hp and the CTS gets that motor with 200HP, why is there a decrease in 19HP?

methinks it could be underrated

EDIT:

I think I just answered my own question...

check out the picture below of a V6 camaro engine bay and take not of everything in there.



ok now take a look at the CTS's engine bay....





The assumptions we can draw from these two pictures and the news above, is its probably the same motor. Similar engine cover, same location to pour oil into, airbox is in the same spot, and finally the emblem location is empty, with the same lines.

I am gonna make the biggest assumption ever and say that the Camaro will come with 300hp underrated from the LY7 VVT 3.6 V6. Check out the dyno below:

scaz

I see your point. I see lots of Camaros and think wow there is a nice Camaro, but then notice that it is a V6 with a woman driving it. Suddenly I am very dissapointed. I would be nice to see a Camaro and know that it's a beast, but Cars need to sell and if you want people to no matter what see a car and go wow then get your self a classic car.

DAKMOR

Is DOHC really better? Not unless you need that great consistent valve movement above 7000rpms, cough, 10,000, cough.

This V6 is very stout, end of story.

MustangEater82

what is this going ot make the cost of the V6... I mean its great its getting a ballsy motor...


but we are talking about a very nice motor, in other high end GM vehicles right now. Is that gong to completely throw the cost off... but then again the regular 3.6L is in alot of vehicles now.