Holy hell how can anyone find this reasonable?

$2500 in exhaust? I have less than that in my exhaust, turbo, standalone, and shortblock. And yes my welds look tacky.

I would be currious to hear what it sounds like without the muffler. I mean 4 cats and the resonators would still keep it toned down some.

 

Thats what happens when people are scared to do their own work. Headers, ok on that, can make your set but that is alot of fab work, but that system could be duplicated for $500 tops from a good shop. My local shop only charged $500 to do a complete header back 3in mandrel system on an ls1 with longtubes and it looked excelent. The 5th gen has alot more room with its factory true duals.

 

http://slptv.slponline.com/video_detail.php?mId=8794

 

yes i know. it looks much cleaner and FINISHED when you buy a complete system compared to just buying mufflers and welding them in, to me. do what you want. this is just how i look at it.

 

thats the price you pay for the best. in my opinion BORLA is one of the best systems out there. corsa also has a good system and their prices are pretty competative to borla. now these were prices directly from borla. i bought mie through summit and the prices were a few hundred cheaper than going through the manufacturer. hey do what you can do. borla is what i can do.

 

Are you an engineer?

If yes: did you include the value of the time you spent designing your system?

If no: your system is not equivalent to what you can buy from Borla/Corsa/etc.

 

Haha, I was going to bite back, but I think you are having fun with it too.

I did not see 7% gains with my setup Definatly not equivalent.

I am not an engineer by profession, but I do have two hands. I guess we should also include the shop labor for time to install the $2500 exhaust setup, lord knows anyone with that much money to waste will pay to have it installed too.

 

Installation labor is questionable, but fabrication labor should definitely be included.

 

Depends. Are you an installer?
Because if so you should count the time spent.
If not then you should probably pay someone else to do it, because quality will suffer if you do it yourself.

This war has gone on for a century. The people spending more money will always bash the guy in the garage doing his own work. Doesn't matter how something performs. Because we put a name like Borla on something, it will always be better.

 

no, ill be installing mine myself. so just because i have the money to buy a nice exhaust that maybe you yourself or someone else cant buy,or because YOU think its too much money , meens im too good to do the work myself now?!

 

no one said that. but in this case its the "guy in the garage" bashing the other guy. people have different taste. ive always liked the sound of borla but never could afford it before. i always went with flowmaster. well now 4 years later, i have more money saved up for this car and i want to do things the way that i would have back in the day IF i had the money. im doing it professional and the right way. i dont want to cut any corners.

 

[QUOTE=2010_5thgen;5965303]so just because i have the money to buy a nice exhaust that maybe you yourself or someone else cant buy,

I could buy, I choose not to. HP/$ its a terrible investment. I wish you well and hope you are happy with it.

or because YOU think its too much money ,
I am entitled to it - Please continue justifying the cost - Your defense is much stronger than my attack.

meens im too good to do the work myself now?![/
Just a smartass back to another smartass - not you - Implying that someone elses time is worth more than somebody else makes no sense. QUOTE]

 

So here we go again. You are implying that somehow the $1500 system is different than buying $250 worth of Borla mufflers and welding them in. Expensive != proffessional or only way to do something.

 

i never said expensive = professional. i think flowmaster cvat backs are professional. do i think cutting the stock pie and welding a muffler in is professional looking, no. i think its tacky and a cheap way out. most of these systems are cheaper when you buy the cat back and install it your self rather than buying a $50 muffler and paying someone to cut and weld it in and have it not look nearly as nice as it would from the manufacturer.

i know hp is a terrable investment. so are cars. but then again so is everythign right now. ive saved up for quite a long time to get the things i am wanting on this car.

hey when it comes down to it, borla, no matter how much it is, is one of the baddest systems out there. hands down.

 

I'm out. You win. Borla's welders have something the rest of us don't. I don't know what it is so I can't explain it.