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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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I'm thinking they would offer the LS2 in the base Camaro V8 and the LS3 in the top level Camaro. The LS2 isn't quite dead yet. Possibly a supercharged LS2/LS3 in limited production for an ultra-expensive top dog Camaro.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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My guess would be the 300 hp V6 from the CTS in the base, the 430 hp LS3 in the base V8, and a S/C 6.2 pushing 550 hp in the top dog. This would seem to be on par performance-wise with the competitors in 2009-2010.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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if thats the case and they do offer a s/c 6.2.....im just getting the 6.2 base and then adding the s/c after it comes out. you would save so much money by doing that. you wouldnt have to pay the huge amount to have the "ss" package you could just buy a "z28" and put the "ss"supercharger on it.
Why when you can have a factory warranty on the supercharger? BTW... you have those designations reversed.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Why when you can have a factory warranty on the supercharger? BTW... you have those designations reversed.

Pffft........why do that when I can throw a supercharger over hyperexplosive pistons, cast rods, and run 12 lbs of boost.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
I'm thinking they would offer the LS2 in the base Camaro V8 and the LS3 in the top level Camaro. The LS2 isn't quite dead yet. Possibly a supercharged LS2/LS3 in limited production for an ultra-expensive top dog Camaro.
GM is not going to be building LS2s much longer.
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 95firehawk
My guess would be the 300 hp V6 from the CTS in the base, the 430 hp LS3 in the base V8, and a S/C 6.2 pushing 550 hp in the top dog. This would seem to be on par performance-wise with the competitors in 2009-2010.
This makes alot of sense to me.
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BlacLac02
no what im saying is buythe base camaro with the 6.2 and already knowing that a s/c will be out for the vette and if they make one for the camaro, now instead of paying however much $$ for the s/c version (which isnt going to be just a s/c it will probably have brakes and diff.wheels and god knows what else)just buy the s/c and have the factory warranty because it is a gm part and not have to pay for the other b/s. or just throw a pro charger on for 1/4 less.
The only problem I see with that is the durability of the internals in the LS3 compared to a FI 6.2. The LS3 has roughly a 10.5:1 compression ratio and hypereutectic pistons while the S/C 6.2 SHOULD have a more boost friendly 8.5:1 fully forged setup. You could go out and buy a factory blower for the LS3 but you're going to be limited in how much boost you can throw at it. Plus after all of the fuel, ignition, and tuning upgrades that would have to go along with that blower you might actually be pretty close in price to the top dog.
Old Aug 27, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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maybe ill just go and buy an after market one then. you seem to get more power out of aftermarket than you would a factory supercharged motor anyways. lets look at the mustang for example!!
I think you are missing one big point. If you change to an aftermarket unit on a motor originally designed for a boosted application, that is one thing. You were talking about putting it on the possible "base V8", which would probably not have forged internals and a lowered compression ratio. Your chances of tearing up that motor are high.
Old Aug 28, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 95firehawk
Rumors that were floating around here were that they are going to have 3 different versions of the S/C 6.2. A high boost intercooled motor, a low boost intercooled motor, and a low boost non-intercooled motor. This would make sense due to the fact that you would have the same long block assy. for all three. Nothing more than pulley size and state of tune would determine between a 450 hp motor and a 650 hp motor. Good for GM because it would help keep costs down by not needing numerous engines to cover the different models and good for us because that for around $500 you can produce the hp levels of the higher rated engines. Not that all three engines will make it into the Camaro but I can definately see one if not both of the lower engines being slated for the Camaro.
why...would they build aa non intercooled supercharged engine...that sounds a little dumb to me
Old Aug 28, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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why...would they build aa non intercooled supercharged engine...that sounds a little dumb to me
People have been building supercharged engines without intercoolers for over 50 years. The intercooler is a realtively new concept that improves performance. Adding an intercooler to a non-intercooled supercharged engine would be relatively simple. If the Camaro comes out with a non-intercooled S/C 6.2l V8, it won't take long for the aftermarket to supply kits for an intercooler, pulley swap and CPU reprogram. (People seem to be missing that all important last step in their N/A to S/C conversion scenarios.)
Old Aug 28, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sparkz28ss
why...would they build aa non intercooled supercharged engine...that sounds a little dumb to me
I didn't start the rumor...just repeating what I have seen on here. The post above explains it pretty well.

If they do offer a supercharger for the Camaro I hope that they don't put too small of one on it. I thought that the Eaton for the Terminator Cobra was a little too small. I can't remember the exact specs on the Eaton's but I think they were in the neighborhood of 1.6 L in displacement. They are only good for low 500's to the wheel after you port and pulley them. It's when you start swapping in the 2.4 L and larger Kenne Bell's and Whipple's that they really start to shine. With the larger engine displacement of the LS engine I think a 1.X L blower is gonna run out of steam pretty quick.

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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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With the larger engine displacement of the LS engine I think a 1.X L blower is gonna run out of steam pretty quick.
True, but think of the throttle response
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