Curiousity has gotten the better of me. Any news from anyone in the "winky club" that share some info on what is going on with the 300hp v6 that we were being told on here just a few months ago would be in the 5th gen? How many possible engines are in the works now then?

I figured I wouldn't bother asking about this in the LT1 versus 5th gen v6 thread, because it has gone south as far as threads go.

 

There are supposedly 4 engines. And right now i would say its up in the air between 6 choices.

1. The Base V6 = 3.x liter 240 hp

2. The RS V6 = 3.x liter 300 hp
OR
The Base V8 = 5.3 liter 300 hp

3. The LS3 V8 = 400 hp
OR
The LSX V8 = 420 hp

4. The LS7/LS9 = 500 hp

But who knows, this is just a guess. And NOBODY will know until it is actually released.

 

It's under development at GM powertrain.

What else is there to tell?

 

Most likely it will be the same engine used in the 2008 CTS. A DOHC 3.6L w/ direct injection. That is the only 300HP V6 that I know of coming from GM in the near future.

 

I don't think the base V6 will have any more then 250hp. correct me if im wrong but all the 280+hp V6s run on 91+ octane. And I really don’t think they would make the base model run on 91+ octane. Also the higher output sixes seem to be rather high tech and im guessing expensive. Which would raise the cost for the car too much.
That would be cool if they did a 300hp RS version with a six.

 

This would not be the base engine but rather the "upgraded" V6 option.
It was alluded to in another thread that it may have been cancelled for the Camaro, was there anything substantial to that? If it was would there still be an engine option in between the "Camaro" and the "Camaro SS"?

Chris

 

upgraded v6? 2 v6's, 2 v8's? 3 V8's? So many different options have been tossed around, hard to tell.

 

We may get a Base V6 and an HO V6. Or we may only get one or the other.

We will almost certainly get 5.3 V8 and NA 6.2 and possibly SC 6.2 in lower numbers...

Think thats all we can nail down.

 

Yeah, Charlie has mentioned a few times recently that there may only be one V6 on the way.

What’s with the “We will almost certainly get 5.3 V8”?

That is news to me…..I was under the impression we would only see the LS3 and LS9 variant. I also haven’t been as active in here this summer…

Care to follow that statement up? I thought we were only getting 2 V8’s…

 

That just what I think, Im going with what you said there would be two V8s...

But I really don't see a 500hp engine in this car in any numbers worth talking about.

300hp V6 followed by 400hp V8 and 500hp SC V8? Sounds great to gear heads but i don't see it. I can't imagine it will be nipping that close at Corvettes heals, in power or price.

 

6.2L LS3 would be one hell of a base V8. I remember back when people said the LS1 was too much power for a base V8 (Mustang GT had 260HP)

I hope that 425-450HP Monster isn't the cheapest V8 you can get. I have milage, insurance and price to worry about. A 350HP DoD 5.3L would be perfect.

 

I think that is the point of why they are developing the HO V6.

I have heard absolutely nothing about the 5.3L being used….

 

A 300hp V6 and 300hp V8 are two completely different animals...

I would have no problem with that being available, hell if it would line up to Mustang with price I would be ok... But I don't know how many people are going to pay a premium for a V6 engine that runs on 93 when there is a V8 available that runs on regular...

 

I would surmise that if they offered the 'LS3' as the base V8, it'll only be around 325-350hp, enough to compete favorably with the Mustang GT.

I also can't see GM offering 2 V6's and reserving a V8 solely for the top of the line version. That would undermine it's success in trying to cultivate the 'heritage' of the Camaro, and that is mostly due to having a V8 rwd pony car. Lots of people, myself included, won't buy a muscle-car/pony-car without the V8 if there is one available at a reasonable price. There are other cars out there to spend $30K+ on and have a V6. How many Mustangs would sell if the only V8 was the $40K+ Cobra, and the V6's were $30K? Not many. The whole point of the pony car was affordable performance.

 

I hope then a new displacement is in the works. 5.5L? or maybe bring back the 5.7L

Like Good Ph.D said, why buy a 300HP V6 that needs 91+ when you can get a 300HP+ V8 from Ford that runs on 87 and cost $25K

Now if the Camaro with a 6.2L cost the same as a Mustang with a 4.6L and comes with the same options then I guess I can't complain. I don't see GM selling a 425-450HP Camaro for under $26K though.

Mustang and Camaro are all about cheap V8 power. The 300HP V6 would be nice, but Camaro really needs a V8 at the Mustang GT price.