What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
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What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
I haven't seen a post about what models everyone would like to see yet. In my opinon, the more models, the better, because different cars suite different people. I would like to see....
Base Camaro: Supercharged V6 (300-315 HP) Import competitor.
Camaro RS: 5.3L V8 (325-345 HP) Fancy exterior with a kick, but still effiecent and awesome gas mileage, for those who want added style and some power.
Camaro Z28: LS2 V8 (400-415 HP) The legendary Z, that will compete with the Mustang, GTO, Charger, Challenger? And about everything else.
Camaro SS: LS2 V8 with Forced Induction, or tuned down LS7 (435-475 HP) The high end model, for those who want the fastest from the factory.
I doubt they will bring the RS back, but the base Camaro needs to be powerful enough to compete with the imports such as the Evo and WRX. The Z and or SS also need to be able to compete if not stomp, the GTO, Mustang, and whatever Dodge is throwing around. I think the key is building a model of Camaro for everyone, that is affordable, with the looks and performance people come to expect out of the Camaro Nameplate.
Base Camaro: Supercharged V6 (300-315 HP) Import competitor.
Camaro RS: 5.3L V8 (325-345 HP) Fancy exterior with a kick, but still effiecent and awesome gas mileage, for those who want added style and some power.
Camaro Z28: LS2 V8 (400-415 HP) The legendary Z, that will compete with the Mustang, GTO, Charger, Challenger? And about everything else.
Camaro SS: LS2 V8 with Forced Induction, or tuned down LS7 (435-475 HP) The high end model, for those who want the fastest from the factory.
I doubt they will bring the RS back, but the base Camaro needs to be powerful enough to compete with the imports such as the Evo and WRX. The Z and or SS also need to be able to compete if not stomp, the GTO, Mustang, and whatever Dodge is throwing around. I think the key is building a model of Camaro for everyone, that is affordable, with the looks and performance people come to expect out of the Camaro Nameplate.
Last edited by z280utlaw; Jan 9, 2006 at 05:31 PM.
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
Originally Posted by z280utlaw
I haven't seen a post about what models everyone would like to see yet. In my opinon, the more models, the better, because different cars suite different people. I would like to see....
Base Camaro: Supercharged V6 (300-315 HP) Import competitor.
Camaro RS: 5.3L V8 (325-345 HP) Fancy exterior with a kick, but still effiecent and awesome gas mileage, for those who want added style and some power.
Camaro Z28: LS2 V8 (400-415 HP) The legendary Z, that will compete with the Mustang, GTO, Charger, Challenger? And about everything else.
Camaro SS: LS2 V8 with Forced Induction, or tuned down LS7 (435-475 HP) The high end model, for those who want the fastest from the factory.
I doubt they will bring the RS back, but the base Camaro needs to be powerful enough to compete with the imports such as the Evo and WRX. The Z and or SS also need to be able to compete if not stomp, the GTO, Mustang, and whatever Dodge is throwing around. I think the key is building a model of Camaro for everyone, that is affordable, with the looks and performance people come to expect out of the Camaro Nameplate.
Base Camaro: Supercharged V6 (300-315 HP) Import competitor.
Camaro RS: 5.3L V8 (325-345 HP) Fancy exterior with a kick, but still effiecent and awesome gas mileage, for those who want added style and some power.
Camaro Z28: LS2 V8 (400-415 HP) The legendary Z, that will compete with the Mustang, GTO, Charger, Challenger? And about everything else.
Camaro SS: LS2 V8 with Forced Induction, or tuned down LS7 (435-475 HP) The high end model, for those who want the fastest from the factory.
I doubt they will bring the RS back, but the base Camaro needs to be powerful enough to compete with the imports such as the Evo and WRX. The Z and or SS also need to be able to compete if not stomp, the GTO, Mustang, and whatever Dodge is throwing around. I think the key is building a model of Camaro for everyone, that is affordable, with the looks and performance people come to expect out of the Camaro Nameplate.
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
I've talked about this so many times I almost have it memorized,
so I'm just going to post one of my old post and follow it up with a few comments,
everyone read carefully now.
After saying that I think the V6 may get a bit more hp but don’t expect more than 255ish.
The Z28 will be the top dog in hp and performance
The SS is for the man who wants all the goodies along with the go fast V8
(NOT the top performer, the top optioned car)
As far as the base car goes I could possibly see a 5.3L option in it, I guess we could call it the RS, similar to the 3rd gen line up.
That said I bet the SS could option up form the 5.3L LS4 to the 6.0L LS2
Flame away, I'm ready
so I'm just going to post one of my old post and follow it up with a few comments,
everyone read carefully now.
Originally Posted by stars1010 a few months ago...
Ok I’m going to try and reel everyone in one more time….. 
First off don’t expect more than 3 engines total.
Keep in mind that 3 is pushing it too. It cost lots of money to certify each engine.
Even the 4th gen LS1 had to be certified twice for the SS and Z28.
Second, hp will not sell this car to the masses. Don’t even try to argue it.
Yes, I know…. around here performance is everything, but to the everyday person it doesn’t matter. Ford is selling thousands of GT’s with only 300hp.
Don’t expect the LS7, LS9, forced induction V6 or V8, blah, blah, blah ,or any kind of complex expensive hand built engine.
We keep complaining about cost of the over all car. It doesn’t make sense business wise to go spend millions certifying a motor that will only sell to enthusiast and won’t even sell that many units.
Once again only a few enthusiasts will spend just under $40k for a Camaro.
We all know we will have V6 base car, obviously the 3.9L seems to be the choice. 240 hp will be more than enough.
That leaves two more motors.
Realistically speaking who here thinks the average Joe need more than 350 hp on the street as a daily driver?
Shoot I don’t even think the average guy needs that much.
Yes I realize the competition with have a Challenger with 400+hp and a Mid range Mustang that will soon have probably around 325hp.
But realize this...... the Challenger will cost close to $35k to $40k.
We can have a 350hp midrange Camaro that easily beats the Challenger price and isnt that far away from its performace....and remember this is our mid level Camaro..
Then for just a few thousand dollars more this Midlevel SS can beat the 300 to 325 hp Mustang in both the twisties and the drag strip.
That’s why a 5.3L 350hp mid level SS makes sense. If you have to have an SS with more hp, I say let the LS2 be an option.
But give the LS2 to the Z28 as its only motor choice. I’d say a realistic estimate would be between 425 to 450 hp. But that’s maxed out.
There it is, 3 engines with a realistic outlook.
If you want more hp GM will be backing this cars aftermarket and so will everyone else.
Does anyone in here honestly plan on keeping their car stock anyway
I Know I’m not.
(Sorry for the long post, but it had to be said)
First off don’t expect more than 3 engines total.
Keep in mind that 3 is pushing it too. It cost lots of money to certify each engine.
Even the 4th gen LS1 had to be certified twice for the SS and Z28.
Second, hp will not sell this car to the masses. Don’t even try to argue it.
Yes, I know…. around here performance is everything, but to the everyday person it doesn’t matter. Ford is selling thousands of GT’s with only 300hp.
Don’t expect the LS7, LS9, forced induction V6 or V8, blah, blah, blah ,or any kind of complex expensive hand built engine.
We keep complaining about cost of the over all car. It doesn’t make sense business wise to go spend millions certifying a motor that will only sell to enthusiast and won’t even sell that many units.
Once again only a few enthusiasts will spend just under $40k for a Camaro.
We all know we will have V6 base car, obviously the 3.9L seems to be the choice. 240 hp will be more than enough.
That leaves two more motors.
Realistically speaking who here thinks the average Joe need more than 350 hp on the street as a daily driver?
Shoot I don’t even think the average guy needs that much.
Yes I realize the competition with have a Challenger with 400+hp and a Mid range Mustang that will soon have probably around 325hp.
But realize this...... the Challenger will cost close to $35k to $40k.
We can have a 350hp midrange Camaro that easily beats the Challenger price and isnt that far away from its performace....and remember this is our mid level Camaro..
Then for just a few thousand dollars more this Midlevel SS can beat the 300 to 325 hp Mustang in both the twisties and the drag strip.
That’s why a 5.3L 350hp mid level SS makes sense. If you have to have an SS with more hp, I say let the LS2 be an option.
But give the LS2 to the Z28 as its only motor choice. I’d say a realistic estimate would be between 425 to 450 hp. But that’s maxed out.
There it is, 3 engines with a realistic outlook.
If you want more hp GM will be backing this cars aftermarket and so will everyone else.
Does anyone in here honestly plan on keeping their car stock anyway
I Know I’m not.
(Sorry for the long post, but it had to be said)
The Z28 will be the top dog in hp and performance
The SS is for the man who wants all the goodies along with the go fast V8
(NOT the top performer, the top optioned car)
As far as the base car goes I could possibly see a 5.3L option in it, I guess we could call it the RS, similar to the 3rd gen line up.
That said I bet the SS could option up form the 5.3L LS4 to the 6.0L LS2
Flame away, I'm ready
Last edited by stars1010; Jan 9, 2006 at 05:45 PM.
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
Originally Posted by jg95z28
Z28 will be the top Camaro.
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
if i recall correctly, Z28 was originally a handling/road racing/suspension type package.. all the same engine options were available in both SS and Z28... i dont know
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
Why do people keep saying that? When has the Z28 ever had more power than an SS? Do I just not know Camaro history as well as I thought?
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
Originally Posted by stars1010
Let me do a search for you, we have beat this dead horse into dust.
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
first of all, your name is HOTCIVIC... better put that flame suit on or maybe you do whenever you're surrounded by your CIVIC.
Okay, sorry for the flame, flamer.
Being fast does not mean having more power. Just because an SS had more power in the past does not mean it was faster. Z28's were fire breathers and had an insane top end with a near if not exceeding a 7k redline.
Okay, sorry for the flame, flamer.
Being fast does not mean having more power. Just because an SS had more power in the past does not mean it was faster. Z28's were fire breathers and had an insane top end with a near if not exceeding a 7k redline.
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Re: What Models Would You Like For The 5th Gen Camaro?
Originally Posted by HOTCIVIC
I usually post on LS2 so I guess I missed out on the Z28 vs SS battles.
Yeah I can’t find an old thread...
But basically like Abidar put it...
The Z28 was the race car, the SS was the hot cruiser with all the options and a big motor.
And the Z28 name has also been on the side of Camaro’s many more years than SS has.
Further more any Chevrolet can be an SS...
Only a Camaro can be a Z28.
I think a lot of us here would like to see a Z06 like Camaro, so why call it anything else but Z28.