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05-01-2009, 02:19 PM

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vonmoldy

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Pointless. No matter how much I like the car there really isn't any "heritage" anymore. But hopefully this new car will make it's own.

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05-01-2009, 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vonmoldy

Pointless. No matter how much I like the car there really isn't any "heritage" anymore.

I think that can be argued

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Main Entry:
her·i·tage Listen to the pronunciation of heritage
Pronunciation:
\ˈher-ə-tij, ˈhe-rə-\
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Middle English, from Anglo-French, from heriter to inherit, from Late Latin hereditare, from Latin hered-, heres heir — more at heir
Date:
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1: property that descends to an heir
2 a: something transmitted by or acquired from a predecessor : legacy, inheritance
b: tradition
3: something possessed as a result of one's natural situation or birth : birthright

05-01-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JeremyNYR

3rd gens don't have an f in the vin either in reference to the platform. the F in the vin is more of a substitute for the platform not being called the f-car/ f-body rather than a continuation. I just think it's awesome that enthusiasts have enough input and pull to influence the designation in the VIN! It isn't moving mountains, but it's still pretty cool.

from 1985 on they do!

IT is a big deal to some -- and while this car IS Zeta -- it still has a letter designator -- and that's why it was so important to get "F" in the 2G1F.....

(2) GM of Canada
(G) General Motors
(1) Chevrolet
(F) Vehicle line

You must always honor the past.........esp. when it comes to a hallowed name such as Camaro.......

Unfortunately the model numbers had been 'baked' once we brought this issue up -- and it was too late to change them -- that's why they are 1E*37.......

05-01-2009, 03:05 PM

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^ ^ Scott, there's "something" missing in your signature!!!

W.T.F.?

05-01-2009, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Capn Pete

^ ^ Scott, there's "something" missing in your signature!!!

W.T.F.?

???????????????

05-02-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fbodfather

???????????????

I see a pretty picture of 3 really nice cars, except none of them are a 5th-gen Camaro

..... I think you need to update that picture!!

05-03-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Capn Pete

I see a pretty picture of 3 really nice cars, except none of them are a 5th-gen Camaro

..... I think you need to update that picture!!

ahhhh!!!! True -- that picture is at least three years old -- was taken in "Mom" Settlemire's driveway -- The Silver Convert. is my "Z7D" Brickyard 400 --- the yellow Z06 was a company car -- and the Red/Silver T-top is Mom's.......

Guess I need to get Thor to Mars and get another pic. taken!

05-03-2009, 02:28 PM

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Fixed for now!

Better?

For those who are not familiar with it, the image is called "Camaro Lesson" and the book Scott is reading is titled "Mustang Humiliation". We took that image when we were doing our 2010 Camaro Test Drive. Scott is kinda brilliant at coming up with stuff like that.

Larger version of the image is here:
https://www.camaroz28.com/gallery/ma...g2_itemId=1898

05-04-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonD

Fixed for now!

Better?

I love it! They look like two eager young students ready to get out into the real world.

(I've seen the pic before, but needed to comment.)

05-04-2009, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jg95z28

F-body had nothing to do with the VIN actually.

Yes, F started as just the name for the platform, but as Scott pointed out above, it did become part of the VIN in the mid 80s. I just like the nod to the F body heritage of having the F in the VIN.

In any event, there are clearly a great number of us who like the "F" VIN. And if you don't like it, it doesn't really impact you one way or another. So we're happy, you're unaffected, and life goes on.

05-04-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TTopJohn

Yes, F started as just the name for the platform, but as Scott pointed out above, it did become part of the VIN in the mid 80s.

So for exactly 1/2 of the Camaro's existence prior to the new 2010 Camaro, there was an "F" in the VIN and for the first half of its existence there wasn't. Again I ask, is it really that big of a deal? When you consider that no Camaro ever had a "B" pillar prior to this one, I think its all small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.

05-04-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jg95z28

When you consider that no Camaro ever had a "B" pillar prior to this one

Ummm, 4th gens have B-pillars.

Actually, 5th gens do too -- it's just at the back of the car.

(Pillars are labeled in order from front to back, regardless of location.)

05-04-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jg95z28

But for all of the 1967-2002 run, the Camaro and Firebird were on the F-body platform.

It's both a big deal and a small deal. Big deal - Camaro, Firebird & F-Body have always been one in the same.

Small deal - it's just a letter on the VIN - and it's awesome that Cheryl Pilcher worked so hard for us on such a small detail.