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Old 04-30-2009, 04:07 PM
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Thank you Cheryl Pilcher !!!

I personally would like to thank you for jumping through so many
hoops for the F designation which means so much
to so many people


2G1F<---- Thank you Cheryl
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:13 PM
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Thumbs up

And trust me, it was a fight at times to make sure it stayed in there.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:15 PM
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It is more than greatly appreciated
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:19 PM
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Just curious... why do you care so much?

I get that it's cool that it's still technically an "F body", but I don't see why it means so much to so many people. What's the appeal?
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Pedigree. History. Respect for the F-Body heritage. To me that is a NO brainer.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:30 PM
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Continuity. For me, it's the F-Body that I like, I don't pick a favorite between the Camaro or Firebird. F-Body takes on a greater meaning since it encompasses both of my fav cars. It's been an F-body since 1967, and it's so nice to see it continue that way. So even though we don't have a Firebird, it's a nice tribute that the new Camaro keeps an "F" designation.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:35 PM
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I think it's a nice touch and cool for nostalgia but an F in the VIN doesn't make it an F-body.
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Old 05-01-2009, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 99SilverSS
I think it's a nice touch and cool for nostalgia but an F in the VIN doesn't make it an F-body.
mmmmaaahhh........Actually it does.
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I agree , without the F in there its not an "F" car.

Too bad we'll never see a new Firebird again since Pontiac is out.
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And trust me, it was a fight at times to make sure it stayed in there.
Any particular reason why? You wouldn't think it'd be THAT big of a deal to decide on what body code to give a car in the VIN.
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Semantics/technicalities. Would any of you enjoy the car any less if it didn't have an F in the VIN?

Sure, it's a nice touch, but it's not like the car would be any different if a different letter were used

As long as we're all happy, that's what matters
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 426HPSS
Pedigree. History. Respect for the F-Body heritage. To me that is a NO brainer.
That depends on your definition of pedigree.
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Continuity. For me, it's the F-Body that I like, I don't pick a favorite between the Camaro or Firebird. F-Body takes on a greater meaning since it encompasses both of my fav cars. It's been an F-body since 1967, and it's so nice to see it continue that way. So even though we don't have a Firebird, it's a nice tribute that the new Camaro keeps an "F" designation.
F-body had nothing to do with the VIN actually.
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I agree , without the F in there its not an "F" car.
Oh really?
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I think it's a nice touch and cool for nostalgia but an F in the VIN doesn't make it an F-body.
We have us a winner!

Considering this new Camaro gets most of its influence from the first generation Camaros, particularly 1968-69... those of you who insist on an "F" in the VIN makes it an F-body for "heritage" reasons might be interested to know that there never was an F in the VIN of any 1967-69 Camaro.

In 1967-69, the VIN either had an L or an N... not F... not even on the Trim tag.
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Originally Posted by jg95z28

We have us a winner!

Considering this new Camaro gets most of its influence from the first generation Camaros, particularly 1968-69... those of you who insist on an "F" in the VIN makes it an F-body for "heritage" reasons might be interested to know that there never was an F in the VIN of any 1967-69 Camaro.

In 1967-69, the VIN either had an L or an N... not F... not even on the Trim tag.
Yea I think some of the misconception is between the GM platform the car is based on and its' VIN number. F-body (Camaro/Firebird) is just GM's designated 2 door, 2+2 seat, RWD platform (architecture) for the first 35 years of existence. The 5th Gen is on the Zeta platform.

Again I think it's a nice touch but adding an F to the VIN of the 5th Gen doesn't change the platform. It's still based on Zeta.

Really I don't see what the big deal is as we are just lucky to have the car back on any platform.
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3rd gens don't have an f in the vin either in reference to the platform. the F in the vin is more of a substitute for the platform not being called the f-car/ f-body rather than a continuation. I just think it's awesome that enthusiasts have enough input and pull to influence the designation in the VIN! It isn't moving mountains, but it's still pretty cool.
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Originally Posted by JeremyNYR
3rd gens don't have an f in the vin either in reference to the platform. the F in the vin is more of a substitute for the platform not being called the f-car/ f-body rather than a continuation. I just think it's awesome that enthusiasts have enough input and pull to influence the designation in the VIN! It isn't moving mountains, but it's still pretty cool.
My 3d gens vin starts with "1G1FP..." The "FP" indicates the body type.
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