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Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:09 AM
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Maybe it's not the firing order? I really don't know. I honestly don't hear alot of people saying that Camaros don't sound as good as M*stangs, quite the opposite up until the LS cars. They might be one of the worst sounding V8's ever, especially for being so powerful. Mine and my friends L98 cars sound like monsters compared to his 02 SS, (they all have aftermarket exhaust) even stock they had better sound. The Thirds have about 100 less HP than the LS1 cars, it just baffles me how much better the true small and big block Chevys sounded. It was like their signature, that deep roaring rumble. (not that high-pitched annoying hollow drone of the F*rds, or the odd inbetween sound of the Mopars) I remember reading reviews of IROC-Z's vs. 5.0's and even the authors often agreed the Chevy sounded better stock and was slightly louder, with single exhaust. There was also no need back then to put hours into trying to get it to not sound lame like they're doing now. The LS's are such good engines, technically probably the best overall V8 you can buy IMO, I just wish they sounded more like it.
It's early morning and I'm in Atlanta on business... so I don't have any reference stuff with me. I believe the LS motors fire: 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Old Apr 27, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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Nah 1fast, SBC's and BBC's are 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. LSX's are 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3.

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Old Apr 28, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IZ28
Nah 1fast, SBC's and BBC's are 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. LSX's are 1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3.
1-8-7-2-6-5-4-3, RIGHT YOU ARE! Had them bassackwards when I posted. That should teach me to to post on the internet before having my cofee.

Thanks for the correction.
Old Apr 28, 2008 | 05:56 PM
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Haha, n/p. I say GM should go back to the magic number.
Old Apr 28, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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I dont know... I just dont care for the LS exhaust (stock or modified...)

I always did love the tone of the SBC like in my 3rd gen

http://videos.camaroz28.com/search/9...b8018ae462.htm

That is my Edelbrock RPM catback on a stock L03 (305 TBI)... Now I have a L98 and it sounds even better... I just need to make a sound clip for it

Too bad there is no way to make the LS sound like the old SBC. To me, the LS's sound a lot like the "pasta-rockets"... to high pitch and roar, not deep and rumble... LT1 has that same sound as the old SBC, why doesn't LSx?
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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Because the LT1 is a regular SBC. The LSX's are a whole different design.

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Old Apr 29, 2008 | 07:18 AM
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For those who don't like the sound of an LSX exhaust note, stop in at my FQuick garage (link to the left, beneath my avatar) and see what it sounds like with a Corsa catback. I've changed a few minds in the past.
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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For those who don't like the sound of an LSX exhaust note, stop in at my FQuick garage (link to the left, beneath my avatar) and see what it sounds like with a Corsa catback. I've changed a few minds in the past.
I conceed... that is the first nice sounding exhaust I have heard on an LSx

Still not as deep and rumbly as I like them to be (old SBC )... but def not too bad
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by IZ28
Maybe it's not the firing order? I really don't know. I honestly don't hear alot of people saying that Camaros don't sound as good as M*stangs, quite the opposite up until the LS cars. They might be one of the worst sounding V8's ever, especially for being so powerful. Mine and my friends L98 cars sound like monsters compared to his 02 SS, (they all have aftermarket exhaust) even stock they had better sound. The Thirds have about 100 less HP than the LS1 cars, it just baffles me how much better the true small and big block Chevys sounded. It was like their signature, that deep roaring rumble. (not that high-pitched annoying hollow drone of the F*rds, or the odd inbetween sound of the Mopars) I remember reading reviews of IROC-Z's vs. 5.0's and even the authors often agreed the Chevy sounded better stock and was slightly louder, with single exhaust. There was also no need back then to put hours into trying to get it to not sound lame like they're doing now. The LS's are such good engines, technically probably the best overall V8 you can buy IMO, I just wish they sounded more like it.
+1. I agree
Old Apr 29, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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This is the sort of exhaust note that winds my watch.
http://www.lgmracing.com/lgm-0705-watkins.wmv
Heck, give me the music that an old school or new school smallblock plays and I'll be more than happy.
Old May 2, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by IZ28
Haha, n/p. I say GM should go back to the magic number.


(.......and I know this will result in another poll.....) -- sound is subjective -- while I love the sound of the LT1 -- I believe that the LSx engines sound more 'exotic' -- and if you put the right exhaust system on them -- they sound downright mean......

The sound has so many dimensions -- and then there are the other 'issues' that will change how the car actually sounds........

(I'll discuss 'issues' later this summer!)
Old May 3, 2008 | 04:18 AM
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I guess we should all buy Ferrari's or Lamborghini's then!

"Exotic" or high pitched is for European cars and V12's. Deep, mean, and roaring rumble is musclecar, like the SBC's and BBC's had.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
(.......and I know this will result in another poll.....) -- sound is subjective -- while I love the sound of the LT1 -- I believe that the LSx engines sound more 'exotic' -- and if you put the right exhaust system on them -- they sound downright mean......

The sound has so many dimensions -- and then there are the other 'issues' that will change how the car actually sounds........

(I'll discuss 'issues' later this summer!)
I absolutely agree regarding the "exotic" quality. I know Jim Browning, who own Corsa exhaust and is a nice fellow to boot, and he and I were staying at the same hotel for a Sebring 12 race weekend. A small group of us would convoy back and forth to the track in our 'vettes.

He was complimentary of the sound of my Z06, which I thought was pretty nice. I told him it was Lou's longtubes, World Challenge x-pipe and the stock Titanium catback.

The old and new school SBC's all sound good to me.
Old May 3, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1fastdog
I know Jim Browning, who own Corsa exhaust and is a nice fellow to boot
Nice enough to cut me a deal on some Corsa Sports?

I like both sounds as well, the old school and the exotic. I've had a hard time figuring out which way to go w/ the LS3.
Old May 3, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
(.......and I know this will result in another poll.....) -- sound is subjective -- while I love the sound of the LT1 -- I believe that the LSx engines sound more 'exotic' -- and if you put the right exhaust system on them -- they sound downright mean......

The sound has so many dimensions -- and then there are the other 'issues' that will change how the car actually sounds........

(I'll discuss 'issues' later this summer!)
I like the LSx engine sound better. You're right, it does sound more exotic. The pitch is higher, it's more of a screamer than the grunt-grunt of the older smallblocks. I prefer the screamers (larf!) (and I think the best sounding LSx is definitely the LS7...because it's got a nice burble until you get on it...and then it's like a race car....shame I'll never have the disposable income to get me some of that.)

Then again, my fave engine note belongs to the RX vehicles from Mazda. Nothing is better than the demon-possessed buzz saw sounds of a rotary. 9000 rpm? Yes please.
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