Question regarding Allocation of 5th Gen
Question regarding Allocation of 5th Gen
If the information can't be released to the public at this
time or is too soon or isn't on GM's radar I understand.
Now that said, I was wondering if the allocation on
the 5th Gen would be the same as was on the 4th Gen's
i.e. if Dealer A had an allocation of 5 F Bodies plus
Dealer Choice, would same said Dealer A have an
allocation of 5 on the 5th Gen? Or would this change
in order to move more units? Just wondering
time or is too soon or isn't on GM's radar I understand.
Now that said, I was wondering if the allocation on
the 5th Gen would be the same as was on the 4th Gen's
i.e. if Dealer A had an allocation of 5 F Bodies plus
Dealer Choice, would same said Dealer A have an
allocation of 5 on the 5th Gen? Or would this change
in order to move more units? Just wondering
There was no "allocation" of 4th gen Camaros. Fbodfather can perhaps chime in on this, but GM filled whatever was ordered.
That said, 4th gen Camaro sales fell after the 1994 model year and were pretty much in the dumpster once the 1998s rolled out (below 50K annually).
In 2001, Corvette outsold Camaro for the 1st time in history.... and not by a small margin either :35,627 vs 29,009.
In 2002, Camaro had an extended production year. Production of the 2002 models began in May 2001 (instead of the usual month of July) and ended August 28th 2002 (instead of June). During this time, GM manufactured 42,098 Camaros. BUT.... sold only 28,404 2002 Camaros during the same year Corvette sold 35,767 models. It took another couple of years to sell the leftover Camaros.
More data to consider.
There is something like 4000-4500 authorized Chevrolet dealerships nationwide. If Chevrolet sold 30,000 Camaros annually, that means each dealer averaged only 7 or 8 Camaro sales per year. Considering that most Camaros are sold in California, Texas, and Florida, that means there are plenty of Chevy dealers that sold none or next to no Camaros at all. A likelihood made even more real when you realize that dealers made far greater profit on each Corvette than the razor thin margin of a Camaro on top of Corvettes selling far better.
If anything was allocated, it was Corvette. 4th gen sales were low because they didn't sell.
The 5th gen will be allocated in the begining while production ramps up. However, GM will start manufacturing the 5th gen Camaro quite early and will have a pretty healthy stockpile when they start actually shipping to dealers, so it's doubtful dealer allocations will last very long.
That said, 4th gen Camaro sales fell after the 1994 model year and were pretty much in the dumpster once the 1998s rolled out (below 50K annually).
In 2001, Corvette outsold Camaro for the 1st time in history.... and not by a small margin either :35,627 vs 29,009.
In 2002, Camaro had an extended production year. Production of the 2002 models began in May 2001 (instead of the usual month of July) and ended August 28th 2002 (instead of June). During this time, GM manufactured 42,098 Camaros. BUT.... sold only 28,404 2002 Camaros during the same year Corvette sold 35,767 models. It took another couple of years to sell the leftover Camaros.
More data to consider.
There is something like 4000-4500 authorized Chevrolet dealerships nationwide. If Chevrolet sold 30,000 Camaros annually, that means each dealer averaged only 7 or 8 Camaro sales per year. Considering that most Camaros are sold in California, Texas, and Florida, that means there are plenty of Chevy dealers that sold none or next to no Camaros at all. A likelihood made even more real when you realize that dealers made far greater profit on each Corvette than the razor thin margin of a Camaro on top of Corvettes selling far better.
If anything was allocated, it was Corvette. 4th gen sales were low because they didn't sell.
The 5th gen will be allocated in the begining while production ramps up. However, GM will start manufacturing the 5th gen Camaro quite early and will have a pretty healthy stockpile when they start actually shipping to dealers, so it's doubtful dealer allocations will last very long.
There are a LOT of Camaros in Florida. You can't drive anywhere for 5 minutes without passing a few. And the Concept ISN'T coming to Jacksonville for our International Car show next month????
it's sad how slow it sold, but it's also amazing how great of a resale value that car has had over the last 10 years.
I made my brother test drive a new one. If I didn't make crap for money I would be all over it then and now.
I made my brother test drive a new one. If I didn't make crap for money I would be all over it then and now.
Of course, that's a perfect world and they're are plenty of F-tards out there willing to pay mark-up because all they care about is the minimum payment or they can afford to pay cash for it
That's right! Consider it this way...
If NO ONE bought from a dealer who added huge markups, the dealers would have no choice but to get back in line with a fair and reasonable price.
There's always going to be that person that has a lot of extra money and just HAS to have one 10 minutes before the next guy. Don't be that person. I sure would hate to spend an extra 5k-10k or more on a new Camaro only to see one drive by the dealership right after I signed the papers on it. Don't laugh, it will surely happen out there some place, some time.
Skip the gougers and find a dealership that will treat you right and (again) with a fair and reasonable price. They are out there, you might have to look around to find them but it will be worth it to yourself and all other Camaro buyers in the end.
If NO ONE bought from a dealer who added huge markups, the dealers would have no choice but to get back in line with a fair and reasonable price.
There's always going to be that person that has a lot of extra money and just HAS to have one 10 minutes before the next guy. Don't be that person. I sure would hate to spend an extra 5k-10k or more on a new Camaro only to see one drive by the dealership right after I signed the papers on it. Don't laugh, it will surely happen out there some place, some time.
Skip the gougers and find a dealership that will treat you right and (again) with a fair and reasonable price. They are out there, you might have to look around to find them but it will be worth it to yourself and all other Camaro buyers in the end.
another thing you can do is get a hold of your local Camaro club & find out which Dealerships Sponsor them, because most likely those dealerships if they start messing people in the clubs around the clubs are going to put the heat on them.
I know the major dealerships we do alot of work around here with are already promising us no mark up, But if they do, we can hurt them really bad by telling people on line & in the clubs what they did.
Believe me we have one of the most powerfull tools in the world right now at our finger tips to get information out & thats the net. once the cars go for sale you will see who has a mark up & who doesnt on the net faster than the car lol.
I know the major dealerships we do alot of work around here with are already promising us no mark up, But if they do, we can hurt them really bad by telling people on line & in the clubs what they did.
Believe me we have one of the most powerfull tools in the world right now at our finger tips to get information out & thats the net. once the cars go for sale you will see who has a mark up & who doesnt on the net faster than the car lol.
At least you guys in the U.S. will be paying a reasonable amount for your 5th gen, up here in " KANADA " we are getting so reamed by the dealers. I priced out a Malibu.... $35000 cdn / $26000 us, and our dollar is almost at par.
How about a group purchase ? If we get a dealer to commit to us, imagine the guaranteed business he would get.(that's only if a U.S. dealer is willing to sell to a Canadian )
How about a group purchase ? If we get a dealer to commit to us, imagine the guaranteed business he would get.(that's only if a U.S. dealer is willing to sell to a Canadian )
Last edited by CamaroRick; Jan 23, 2008 at 05:52 PM.
I don't know what kind of markup and wait there will be in SoCal. Too many people and too many with excess cash just wanting the newest and coolest.
Should I determine it easier to buy the new Camaro back home in the Detroit area where past ones were bought I'll certainly enjoy the road trip on Route 66 back!
Should I determine it easier to buy the new Camaro back home in the Detroit area where past ones were bought I'll certainly enjoy the road trip on Route 66 back!


