There ain't nothin' else to talk about

 

Sad, but also true.

 

Ok...I'll join in on the 13th page...

It was sad for me to hear about the added b-pillar. In fact, I was ticked off. This was going to be one more thing that made the Camaro stand out over the Challenger and Mustang. I WAS heartbroken....and got over it.

I'm one who likes to drive w/ the windows down 24/7...from 30 degrees to 100 degrees. I just like the feel of the open air. That was one thing that made me love the design all that much more. I know it's going to save GM millions. Good for them. Good for us we are getting our beloved Camaro back. Yes, I want it to sell 100K per year because I want this icon to be around for many more generations....for my kids to enjoy when they grow up as well.

T-tops? Love'em. I've had them on my last 3-4th Gens...and only one leaked...which was fixed by replacing the weather stripping. No, I don't think this generation Camaro will look good w/ t-tops due to the way the roof is made and it's curves. Now, if GM could make it look good, I'd buy'em. Personally, I'd entertain the idea of a targa top. THAT would be cool.

I tried reading all the way through this thread, but it was rather long....so I stopped somewhere around page 10...but I only saw a couple pix of what could be. Personally, I like the look of that Infiniti and hope it's somewhat similar. Here's a couple more to entertain us on what it could look like. I don't know who did the chop....and another of the Dodge's b-pillar. It almost looks like the Challengers pillar will be completely hidden.





I think it will be more like the 2nd pic.

 

Just my .02
I'm just pointing out that this stuff makes it feel like it's being changed or delayed. Maybe its just me.
And there is definately nothing else to talk about.

 

Actually the rumor of a b-pillar goes back several months. All that has happened is Bob Lutz has confirmed it.

I doubt development is delayed. The only thing holding up Camaro at this point is converting the plant. Let's hope that goes ahead of schedule.

 

Agree with B-pillar for less weight/stronger, structure, but...

...disagree that no-T Tops available is in any way a good thing. They were an option before, make them an option again. Let the buyer decide!

 

Except that there are 100,000+ Camaro buyers out there and GM can't poll their way to an awesome car. For simple engineering and economic sense alone they have to make some decisions up front.

As much as I'm going to miss T-Tops, I think it'll give us a much more stiff, solid, safer car.

 

But like it or not, there there is no choice to make!!

T-Tops were rather profitable as well.

 

But to be realistic, unless they're in the small minority who actually order one, the buyer won't be deciding wether or not the car has Tops. It'll be the dealers (more than likely wanting "loaded" cars to increase profit) ordering them for dealer stock.

.....and by the way, I absolutely LOVE T-Tops/Targa Tops, but I've accepted it's not going to happen. You other hard core T-Top guys should probably do the same.

 

Other than a few targas who makes a T Top today?

 

I agree we very likely will not see T-tops on the 5th gen. It's not suprising really as most of the Camaro design heritage was left on the design shop floor in favor of anything 1st gen. Who knows, maybe when they figure out how to evolve the 5th gen into the 6th we'll get a retro 2nd gen and we'll get them back.

 

The whole reason I hated the idea of retro was because I don't like the first gen. I would have killed to see a modern interpretation of the second or third gens, but the 5th gen turned out really well, for what it is, IMHO. I can see alot of third gen(My fav, styling wise) in it. It amazes me that other people don't.

 

I believe the reason we won't see t-tops is more related to safety and the costs related to implementing them. (See JasonD's post.)

 

I do. I see a lot of 3rd gen in the wheel arches and side creases.

I see a lot of Cadillac in there as well.

 

Oh, I've accepted that fact. Bought a new C6 with the transparent top. I wonder how many other T-top/targa top lovers have decided not to wait?