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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffInDFW
I bought a brand new Trans Am in 1986. It had the Tuned Port 305 in it. The top of the line engine for that year. I spent the next 9 years getting my *** handed to me by every Mustang 5.0 owner within a 500 mile radius of my house. I said, NEVER AGAIN, sold it and bought a 1995 Z28 6 speed, and paid back the favor for the next 10 years.

I will not buy a 2010 Camaro SS and spend the next 9 years getting my *** handed to me by every guy in a Mustang GT500. That is why I want a Supercharged LSA Camaro with 556hp. Because the competition has a 500hp vertion of THEIR car. If GM can't offer it, then I will buy the Mustang, or a used Z06.
Fighting an uphill battle......if you're concerned with being the fastest around, don't buy another new car, theres always something better and faster coming out the day after you make your first payment. A lot more fun throwing a motor in an older car than bragging about how fast your new factory car is anyway. And most importantly, a hell of a lot cheaper.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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After reading the whole interview (Part 1 anyway), I'm sure Lutz is talking about CAFE standards and not a Z/28. GM will turn away more people who want SUV's and trucks than people who want Z/28's. You think Lutz is going put the enthusiast market before that of the average buyer?

That being said, I still think the business case for the Z/28 is stronger now that one year ago. There are people that I know who want an SUV, but don't want "just another car". I think those people will find their way to distinctive cars like the Camaro, and that means more demand for a Z/28.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
....eh, i don't see the big deal with HAVING to get a Z28. I've only ever seen 2 GT500's ever.
Dude we'd be a hell of a race from a roll...

I'm in San Jose too...in a place where Ferrari's and Lambo's can be seen at will, i've seen 1 GT500 on the road...ONE.


Lightened up, better suspension and a Z/28 look...thats all, keep it simple and sell the damn thing!
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
....eh, i don't see the big deal with HAVING to get a Z28. I've only ever seen 2 GT500's ever.
I'm in the bay area, and I've seen at least a half dozen on the road...maybe you're just not distinguishing them from regular mustangs.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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I'm in the bay area, and I've seen at least a half dozen on the road...maybe you're just not distinguishing them from regular mustangs.
they are fairly easy to distinguish, i just think the majority of owners fail to just drive the tanks.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by QATransAm
I'm in San Jose too...in a place where Ferrari's and Lambo's can be seen at will, i've seen 1 GT500 on the road...ONE.
serious. maybe it's just san jose. it seems like i see more C6 Z06's than just regular C6's around here.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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Dude we'd be a hell of a race from a roll...

I'm in San Jose too...in a place where Ferrari's and Lambo's can be seen at will, i've seen 1 GT500 on the road...ONE.


Lightened up, better suspension and a Z/28 look...thats all, keep it simple and sell the damn thing!
we should do a three way race that might be fun,but im not too big on street racing.......also ive only seen 1 or 2 GT500 also. C6 Z06's are everywhere though
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
they are fairly easy to distinguish, i just think the majority of owners fail to just drive the tanks.
Have you guys seen a Challenger on the road? Maybe you guys just don't get out much... no offense. Ha ha.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:37 PM
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i seen one challenger a few weeks ago. and im on the road EVERYDAY. LOL @ people thinking every V6 mustang with stripes is a GT500
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by blackflag
Have you guys seen a Challenger on the road? Maybe you guys just don't get out much... no offense. Ha ha.
I drive across town just about every other day and i haven't seen any out yet. and san jose isn't exactly small, it is the 10th largest city in the country.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
I drive across town just about every other day and i haven't seen any out yet. and san jose isn't exactly small, it is the 10th largest city in the country.
But it is kind of scuzzy... ha ha. No offense - again.

I have seen one new Challenger. I have to admit...it looks really nice out on the road. I wish it weren't such a pig. I plan to take one for a drive once I can find one at a dealership.
Old Aug 26, 2008 | 11:46 PM
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......... I wish it weren't such a pig. I plan to take one for a drive once I can find one at a dealership.
so its confirmed, a 5th gen + one passenger = pig?
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
....eh, i don't see the big deal with HAVING to get a Z28. I've only ever seen 2 GT500's ever.
Ive seen a few from when I was living in Southern MD. Seen a couple on the 495 DC beltway on my way to work. Ironically since Ive been in Annapolis last year Ive seen new Ferraris, M3's, and 911's one AC Cobra one Z06 but no GT 500s. Point is Ive seen a few GT500s and they turn my head. My cousin just bought a new Z06. I love those.
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 01:57 AM
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so its confirmed, a 5th gen + one passenger = pig?
Does that add up to 4100 lbs?
Old Aug 27, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TrickStang37
"Scuzzy"?? i don't know where in the bay area your located, but it can't be menlo park, san francisco, san mateo, santa cruz, oakland, burlingame, palo alto, redwood city, sunnyvale, milpitas, alviso, dublin, livermore, gilroy, ****, pretty much the whole bay area could use the word "scuzzy" describe it before San Jose. or is that your way of dancing around the fact of the large hispanic population here? Unless your some elitist who's overpaying even more or living in the boonies out in the middle of nowhere, i don't see how you can even use that word. scuzzy? do yourself a favor and never go to a big city with real grime, you might **** yourself.

please.
Oh, boy...looks like I hit a nerve...ha ha. Come on. You can't say that San Jose is as clean as...say...Palo Alto, Pleasanton, Walnut Creek, Tiburon...please. Come on. San Jose reminds me of Daly City. And I hate Daly City.

(And I have lived in some grimy cities...ha.)



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