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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
V6 Rear drive Commodore is actually a few pounds lighter than a V6 front wheel drive Impala LTZ.
Yeah, but the Impala SS weighs 3790 lbs and the G8 GT weighs 3995.

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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:37 PM
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...and all to fight non existent global warming......


Vote Republican, or at least anti-liberal!




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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JakeRobb
Buick is still around. Do you mean Oldsmobile?

Plymouth isn't a GM brand. It's a safe bet that Cerberus won't be bringing it back.
Yes thats what I meant.

Its painfully obvious this is the direction the govt wants us to go. But we no longer lead, we follow.

If cerberus could create a successful buisness model, Gm could find the way to make the most money off it...
Old Feb 5, 2008 | 05:42 AM
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quote from gunioM "You almost sound like those same people who destroyed the last Camaro:
"Why spend money making the base car better when we can simply add more horsepower and sell more of them!"

I don't consider most V-6 Camaro owners to be "Enthusiest". That's MY definition.

quote from gunionM "Bill Clinton oversaw fewer new automotive regulations than under Reagan. Safe to say he'll be his wife's key advisor. McCain isn't an enemy to cars. Ironically, Obama (the candidate that seems to be attracting the most liberals) drives a Hemi powered Chrysler 300C. Guliani doesn't even own a car!"


Bill Clinton had the pleasure of dealing with a REPUBLICAN Congress, maybe that is why fewer CAFE regulations in his terms. You have more to fear from the likes of Nancy "stepford wife" Peloci than whoever is president. Unless said president is Hillary, then there is PLENTY to fear.

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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I'd take a turbo Ecotec Camaro over a hybrid anyday!

Just a few mods and it'll blow by V6's like an LS? car...I've seen a 1,000hp Ecotec turbo engine with supposedly a stock bottom end, drag racing!

Here's an article about it:
http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enth...247.A5482.html

Aside from the “why,” the question is, how?

by Fred Staab

Related Articles:
GM Wooing the SEMA Crowd by Gary Witzenburg (11/4/2002)


In order to create the 1000-plus horsepower, GM called on two high-performance principles: mass quantities of fuel and air. A lightly tweaked stock head casting with aftermarket stainless valves mounted gulps the atmosphere through a custom fabricated aluminum intake manifold. Eight fuel injectors spray a methanol fuel fog back to the cylinders. "At 1000 horsepower, we run about 1200 POUNDS an hour of fuel through the motor, so four nozzles were just not enough," says O'Blenes. GM dug into its parts bin for the throttle body selecting a stock unit from a 5.3-liter V-8 GM truck. Ignition is handled by an off-the-shelf aftermarket MSD 7 system designed for a small-block Chevy.

But the biggest power adder of them all comes in the form of a quick spool up eight-inch diameter T4 Turbo charger provided by Innovative Turbo Systems. Pressurizing this 2.0-liter engine, the Turbo, with inlet air chilled by an ice-water-filled intercooler, squeezes 40 pounds of boost into the cylinders. The result is big-block race V-8 power without the displacement or speed-robbing weight.
Nuther one:..
http://media.gm.com/news/releases/011029_drag.html

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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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Hmm, am i looking at something wrong here or do people keep saying to put the turbo 4cyl from the solstice(which gets sub 30mpg). In a camaro that will weigh much more? Im sure Gm is trying to build more cars closer to 30mpg or above it and the turbo 4 would be going in the opposite direction.
Old Feb 5, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
All purely conjecture on the part of the author.

Oshawa will be a flex-plant -- so we'll be able to build other vehicles in that plant.

CAFE changes everything...........but right now, no one on the outside knows what we're going to do...........
Sounds like you and GM have an offset backfield, 3 wide receiver set, double reverse, 40 yard post patern on 3rd and 12 play up your sleeve.
Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:58 PM
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Hmmm... H/28
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 05:29 AM
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Sounds like you and GM have an offset backfield, 3 wide receiver set, double reverse, 40 yard post patern on 3rd and 12 play up your sleeve.
As long as it works out like that 3rd and 5 play the Giants pulled out of their a$$es with about a minute to play in the Superbowl, it should work great.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jrp4uc
Hmmm... H/28
Someone needs to dig out the 1993 Motor Trend issue that first tested the 1993 Z28 and read the last paragraph in the article. Anyone have it and can scan it?
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonD
Someone needs to dig out the 1993 Motor Trend issue that first tested the 1993 Z28 and read the last paragraph in the article. Anyone have it and can scan it?
I have it, but would be tomorrow at the earliest that I could scan it.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by christianjax
I have it, but would be tomorrow at the earliest that I could scan it.
Please do if you can, I just hope I am thinking of the right article. I think I am. It is somewhat related to the topic of this thread if I have the right one. At the time, the paragraph I am thinking of generated images of life like the Jetsons, a humorous stab at what a "next Camaro" may be like. Now, while not exact, it might have been closer than I thought back in 1993.
Old Feb 6, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by christianjax
As long as it works out like that 3rd and 5 play the Giants pulled out of their a$$es with about a minute to play in the Superbowl, it should work great.
With Bob Lutz at quarterback, I have no doubt he can elude sack after sack while making the completion into tripple coverage. With Ed Welburne at wide receiver, I have no doubt he can make the catch with his helmet
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:15 AM
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With Bob Lutz at quarterback, I have no doubt he can elude sack after sack while making the completion into tripple coverage. With Ed Welburne at wide receiver, I have no doubt he can make the catch with his helmet
And let's hope that Ford doesn't throw the challenge flag.
Old Feb 7, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonD
Please do if you can, I just hope I am thinking of the right article. I think I am. It is somewhat related to the topic of this thread if I have the right one. At the time, the paragraph I am thinking of generated images of life like the Jetsons, a humorous stab at what a "next Camaro" may be like. Now, while not exact, it might have been closer than I thought back in 1993.
*slaps forehead* I forgot the magazine today. If I go home for lunch (very good chance) I'll try to remember to bring it in. Sorry for the delay.



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