Well you're the only one with anything constructive to say, but is 5 grand really worth 100 more horsepower? Maybe, but better yet what if that 100 horsepower isn't a V8. I know I'm sure as hell not paying 30k for a v-6.

 

nice attitude...aren't message boards for opinions? What did you really expect, you're posting on a Camaro site, did you think everyone would say "dude, you're right, I'm not buying a Camaro either!"

as far as price goes...if it's better than a mustang, I have no problem paying a little more. GM knows they have to keep the price as close as possible to the mustang or they'll lose customers. It'll be in the same ballpark.

And please...it's only a motor-trend blog, don't take it all so seriously.

 

Yes who really cares...seriously about any of us, what is threatening not to buy or being pissed off about something none of us even know about going to do?

So why not wait til you know as much as the rest of us? and if you don't like what they're offering...use the money and buy a built motor for your car.

I worked my *** off for my cars too...haven't we all?

 

it's not all about horsepower for the average consumer, satellite radio, ride comfort and other things go a long way, I know I would rather pay more to get a car with more options especially if I am going to own it for a long time

 

CALM DOWN..........................

Until you've been inundated with the media (which isn't a bad thing....) you can't understand what happens during an 'interview'

.......a lot of what was said today was taken out of context.

We aren't completely stupid....the new Camaro MUST be priced competitively............


A premium could be as little as $50..................

4 cylinder?

Well........here's an interesting fact: The Federal government passed a LAW...but they have NOT written the rules...........so we know that we have to hit 35mpg as an average by 2020.........BUT --- no one knows the route -- or what the rules are...........

You can BET that EVERYONE in the industry is looking at alternative powertrains..........


Meanwhile........the 4 cylinder isn't in the 'official' plan at this point in time....so CALM DOWN....................

 

Scott to the rescue. Thanks again for stopping in and helping us keep the faith.

 

Scott,

I personally think the 2.0 T/C motor, is a GREAT idea! Seriously. What an excellent opportunity for conquest sales from the kids who grew up with T/C 4's as the mill of choice (whether due to insurance costs or whatever). I think it makes pefect sense, and having that motor in the line-up will not bother me in the least bit, as long as my top end camaro has forged internals (so I can drop the 2.3l blower on top)

BTW, I really like my new Tahoe!

 

While this is a reply to the original post, it could easily apply to some other comments and threads I've read this evening.

Question: Do you really think that when Bob Lutz says that the Camaro will be priced as a Premium car that he means it will cost more than the G8 (a "Premium" car that has the overhead of being shipped in from Australia)?

Here is the quote from the blog, "GM will position both the V6 and V8 versions of the Camaro as premium cars compared to the Camaro’s chief rival, the Ford Mustang."

Since the G8 is considered a Premium car (plus some since it's Pontiac instead of Chevy), I'd guess he's saying that the price will be closer to the G8. I'd also be willing to bet that the Camaro will come in lower priced than the G8 equivalent across the board. If I'm right, then the Camaro will be priced like a well optioned Mustang with the "Premium" package.

If that amount of increase in the price is a deal breaker for some, I can understand their frustration. However, if you think you should just buy a G8 because of the unknown Camaro pricing, I'm fairly certain you'll be spending more on the Pontiac than on the comparable Camaro.

Edit: Got caught up with a phone call from work and didn't get the above typed in before the Great Scott posted.

FWIW, the "Premium" package on the Ford Mustang adds less than $1500 to the price of the base model.

 

Well, its more than just HP alone. 4.6 VS 6.0+
5 speed manual VS 6 speed manual, auto(much more stout than whatever Ford will be putting in there Im sure)
Lookwise...Not even an issue as far as Im concerned.

List goes on and on

 

Yet again scott speaks wisdom. calms the masses, and puts everything in life back in harmony.


My 1 and only concern, is for this car to do good. I want the camaro on the road for decades to come, in all sorts of new incarnations.. (also long enough for me to have money enough to buy another new one!! )

Thanks for your post Scott. we appreciate it.

 

I'm happy to see how much passion and emotion some of the members have for this car...until they freak out about some speculation that was mentioned (out of context) or blurry/poor quality photos. Everyone take a step away from the computer, a deep breath, and CALM DOWN.

 

please tell me that 11k loan was like 10 years ago.

 

Mike, you sound like a whiny high school student that never got higher than a D average. It's downright disturbing and chilling to think that a full grown adult male is this gullible, over-emotional, and entirely unrealistic on something like this. You might really consider following post number 2.

You aren't going to get pricing on Camaro next month, or the month after, or likely even for some months afterwards. The quote was to the effect that the Camaro will be a premium car over the Mustang, and not one person should be surprized about that. Camaro will have independent rear suspension. It's likely to have a 300 horse V6. It's going to have pretty huge wheels standard. It's going to have a top notch interior. To think a car like this would come out at the exact same price as a current Mustang would be a bit of a stretch. It's also going to be very well made, and even the non V8 models are going to be exceptional (something that can't be said about the 4th gen by far!). It's going to cost more than a Mustang... but I suspect at least a few hundred dollars more, but less than a grand. Camaro is simply going to cost more to make than the Ford Mustang, and I don't see GM eating the cost.

If you have actually saved every penny you could scrape together driving a '98 Malibu with "a glass fuel pump", then 2 things stand out:

1. If you can't even afford a proper fuel pump in a '98 Malibu, you probally can't afford a new Camaro.

2. If you have waited this long and can't wait another 6 months for pricing on a car you supposedly have waited for, you're most likely either a mental case or aren't serious about buying the new Camaro, and just want to engauge in internet oneupsmanship.

Camaro stands for affordable performance, but it does not stand for sheer performance.

Breaking the bank is relative. If a $27,000 to $30,000 V8 powered car breaks your bank, the new Cobalt SS turbo is only $23,000 and is apparently slightly quicker than an LT1 F-body.

If that costs too much for you, then '02 Z28s are now in the very low teens.

Fixing the fuel pumps will cost alot more than it does on a '98 Malibu, though.

 

Well. I'm tired of waiting too. I still like what I see in the new Camaro concept. But it's been a "concept" for years...too long. I too would like to see what the car will really look like, pricing, etc... But I'm not holding my breath anymore.

If you're ready to buy, I would buy the G8 and let the Camaro wait until you're ready. It will be at least a couple years before we can order one from a Chevy dealer without a long wait and/or paying a premium price. I agree...we have waited long enough. GM really missed the boat on this one. It's been 6 years now since the last Camaro went out of production, and there's 2 new Mopar "Pony Cars" in play now in addition to the Mustang. There are not a lot of buyers for this type of car and GM has been out of the market for too long.

The new Camaro concept looks like it will be a beautiful car, but I'm afraid it may suffer the same fate as the GTO. A short run vehicle with low sales....but I hope I'm wrong.

You're not the only one who has lost interest in the new Camaro because of the delays. Maybe they released the concept too soon.

 

Hmm the the Firebird was a premium price car vs the Camaro many years. It amounted to some thing just being standard you had to order ont he Camaro extra.

The bottom line is the Camaro wil still l be affordable and better optioned than a Mustang.

What Lutz would have been better off saying is the Camaro will be a better value as you will get things like IRS and more HP for only a little more.

Non isssue move on the sky is not falling.