not sure if this has been posted or not yet. saw it on yahoo.
http://autos.yahoo.com/news/muscle-c...-required.html

 

interesting...
they tried to kill the muscle car before, remember the '80s versions of the camaro, firebird, and mustang that had 4 or 6 cylinders? if they don't mass produce the car with a V8, lots of people will just swap a V8 into them
I had an early mid-life crisis haha.

 

 

had the technology and power outputs now, existed 40 years ago, do you think they would have offered 4 cylinder turbo in the camaro? or even v6 turbo? possibly in place of the v6 and v8? mustang the 4 cylinder turbo..

 

honestly?

40 years ago no because they did not have to. I am assuming of course you mean today's technology for V8's as well such as the LS3. During the 80's there was the Camaro Iron Duke and SVO 4 Cyl Turbo Mustang. The thing I think is funny about a generation at any given time is they always think they are much more advanced. The big thing about the 3.8 V6 that was in my Camaro and was a selling point was that it had as much horsepower as the previous Mustang V8. When my mom bought it new from the dealership the pitch other than the numbers might be similar today. The car has over 200 hp. Pretty soon there will be no need for a V8. Only the V8 LS1 has what 350, and sounds a hell of a lot better. Today you could say the 3.6 Direct Injection is so advanced at over 300 hp soon there will be no need for the V8. I am assuming you disagree or you wouldnt have bought an LS3 SS and modified the hell out of it. 10 years from now I think the numbers will change, but the 2021 V8 (if not outlawed) will sound better and perform better than the lower options at that time.

 

so how do you feel about a v6 in a vette? whether TT or S/c or whatever it may be.

 

That is a great question. I really had to think about it.

Part of it is emotional. I do not think that is a bad thing. i.e. 1/4 mile wise many racers take the light pintos, Vega's, and Monzas and stuff big blocks in them. They sound great and are fast as anything, but to me they just dont look great so even though they perform excellent, I dont enjoy watching them.


The Corvette is awesome. I am kicking around the idea of going after a used LS3 C6 maybe rather than the Camaro but I really dont know if Im kidding myself. It would be a fun dream car though that I would hope to keep for a long time. I could not afford to be a repeat buyer. With Corvette, I could not even afford to go new. The C6 has the looks I still think are better than many Ferrari's. While the Ferrari has the awesome V12 wine, the Vette has the awesome V8 rumble. I couldnt imagine settling for less. The torque, the power, the sound, the look and the performance, I just couldnt imagine going with a V6 TT Vette.


The closest I can think of to even picture a comparable senario to answer the question is something like Nissan. I really like the 370Z but it is not Twin Turbo. The GTR is Twin Turbo but it is Camaro size... Not to mention other transmission issues the GTR had when it came out that would make it hard for me to trust that car. But how would a twin turbo GTR type motor in a 370Z compare to the Corvette LS3 base model? I bet a V6 370Z TT would be serious Vette competition. Looking at it in that way, such a V6 would be really cool to own, and makes the question that much harder.

So would a V6 TT or SC be a success? maybe. I spoke to Proud Pony about my fathers Cobra he is building. My dad put a 460 Big Block in a Shell Valley Cobra replica. Proud brought up a really good point. With what you can do with a small block, there isnt much need for a front heavy Big Block unless youre a serious drag racer. Still the Big Block went in for several reasons. Going to car shows when someone has a Cobra sitting out with the hood up, you (well we at least want to see the 427 Big Block) justifying those massive side pipes because that is what the Cobra dream car is to us. Will we hit the point where the small block would only be smart in a drag racing application? I dont know. Right now I am still very partial to the small block. I would choose an LS3 over a V6 TT in the Corvette. But either way that would be a choice we make. Bob Lutz was quoted in the article due to gas restrictions the V8 would probably need expensive technologies driving up the price of that choice considerably if it can still be an option and that gets under my skin...

So that is what I think. What about you?

 

i think the times are shifting a bit...the direction the vette is going especially. now lets not forget the original vette had a 6 cylinder...but the vette guys dont like much change..they really didnt like the headlight idea until they started seeing htem and getting used to it. that being said, i think the vette is going to eventually have a v6 TT. its not much of a drag racing car anymore. its more of a track car now. and a low weight high hp vette would be perfect on the track. not saying there wont be a v8 option, but i think the base model will be a v6 tt. i also think the 5.5 motor will be in it as a z06 possibly...but thats what i think( or want)
as far as the camaro...i dont like the idea of the 4 cylinder base car...but i get the CAFE BS. its needed for them to sell the 4 cylinder high MPG cars so gas guzzlers guys like me can have the v8 if the camaro came in a v6 TT, i may be open to it. if it can achieve the sound like the gtr or even porsche, i would be all over it. im not a fan of the v6 sound now. but have you ever heard a gtr full throttle? sounds great.