I agree. I don't care about it anymore. GM already knows what we want. If they don't give us what we want, we will do just as those before us, buy something else. GM knows that. For us to be arguing over theoretical options and specifications is pointless. We already have an idea of what the car will look like. I hope that they change it to have less retro "cues," but it doesn't matter, because no matter how GM changes it, we won't have any input until its being sold and the 6th gen is being talked about.
(but don't mistake what I'm saying, I do like the way the car looks, mostly the back end though. )

 

An LS7 is probably not on the menu, purely from a cost standpoint...

BUT...

That does not mean that 500hp isn't.

Whatever LSX/GenX motor comes to pass, 500hp is easily achieveable, and some of you in the forced induction camp stand a good chance of being pleasantly surprised.

Good chance I'll finally get my forged slugs too.

 

I agree with you. The key word is "theoretical". Anything is possible. So why not try to narrow the list to things that might be more likely?

Much how GuionM did with trying to piece together where the Camaro would be built, I am trying to do the same with the engine. No one knows any details, so the best we can do is try to think from GM's perspective and look for clues.

GM has a full range of V8s to choose from, starting with the 4.6l. Its quite possible they could drop a smaller displacement V8, producing say 350HP - just enough to level a stang GT - and make that a mid-range model Camaro...such as an RS.

I just see the Camaro following the Vette's lead, and getting the LS3 - Just like the Camaro got the LT1 and LS1.

GM doesn't have a lot of cash to be throwing around these days - remember, they posted a 4.8 billion loss last quarter, and a shark with the initials K.K. now owns 9.9% of GM stock and he's looking for more. Kerkorian isn't investing in GM because he loves cars. He is trying to make a buck. If he could make a big enough profit by splitting apart and selling it off, he would.

While I think GM will make a strong statement of superiority with the Camaro, I think they will be safe and cautious as well, errily aware of the bottom line.

 

"Them" and "us" are often the same group. Some of "us" like and own both cars.

 

So true...a 450hp LS3 is just a set of headers, pulley, tune and CAI away from being 500hp. And still remain smog legal! And gets 30 mpg to boot !!

That is mind boggling when you think about it.

 

Not exactly…..funny though,

The only thing other one was doing was pointing out all the idiotic posts he saw….

But really…

I’ve been a member here for years and just today decided to be a supporting member….

Now I can change my avatar whenever I want to….

I’ve had the same evil monkey avatar for about 3 years now….I needed a new one…

I’ve got a few different “evil monkey” pics on my computer, I’ll prob switch them around on here every once in a while….

For I am the Evil Monkey of CZ28.com…..

Looks like you're sticking around….I’ll be nice to you since you seem to be a mature newbie………we have had some……oh lets say less educated people float in here lately and annoy the sh*t out of me lately…..

But don’t get your panties in a wad if I call you out on something…..this is prob the biggest forum of debate on the entire board…

Welcome Will, and don’t mind PacerX…..you’ll learn to love his sh*t

 

That's precisely the reason why I love these big pot OHV motors.

Yet there's a lot of misguided people who would like nothing better than to see the extinction of these affordable, lightweight, durable, relatively fuel efficient for their size (esp compared to DOHCs) high power powerplants.

Long live GM... OK, I'll get off my soap box now...

 

The odds say at this point you aren't going to need any mods for the 500hp figure. Very good chance you just pick it up from the dealer that way.


Think of yourself as the intellectual welcoming committee.

The standard is higher here - and you help set the bar.

Yup.


He's already kinda sweet on me, I can tell.

 

Thanks, I’ll take that as a comment!

But don’t think for a second I wont burn the sh*t outta someone….I usually just hold back….

 

But for how much? We all want that fast car, but we don't want it to cost us. What are the odds of GM putting a very restrictive air intake system, or some very restrictive computer programming to allow us to easily get that 500hp unofficially, and without insurance getting involved?

 

You're not the only one holding back, but I was taught to play nice. Besides, it's just my nature to be nice. I realize that's not cool or hip with the ladies, but oh well.

But back on the real topic, I've always loved the Camaro, but I never thought of it in the same class as a Corvette. To me the Corvette was always much faster than the Camaro. I'm not really into the 4th gens though, so what does that tell ya? I hate to say I'd rather the top performing Camaro not be able to touch the Corvette, but for some reason that's what I'd prefer. (Why, I have no idea.) Oh well, JMHO.

 

Less than the competition.

Zero.

The competition will be beaten.

That's the name of the game.

 

If its been said once, its been said 1000 million times, GM doesnt lose hp wars.
I have heard rumors of a even bigger 6.4 liter Hemi coming? Any input on that?

 

AAHHHHH 2006, where we can call 400+ hp "sub-par."

 

Oh,