According to DigitalCorvettes.com, 2008 will mark the introduction of the LS3 and the LS9, putting down 450ish and 650ish horsepower numbers, respectively.

- The LS7 is prohibitively costly to build, making it an unlikely option, although one we'd like dream about.

- The LS3 will be an evolution of the LSx series, being mass produced in the same way its older bretheren are produced.

- Introduction of the Camaro will probably be around late 2008 - in line perfectly with the introduction of the LS3.

- Having and LS3 in the top dog camaro won't conflict with the "Vette vs. Camaro" decree, as the base Vette will have the LS3 as well.

- The LS3 is on the GM drive train roadmap starting in 2008, whereas I haven't seen any mention of the LS7 in that time frame. Could it be dropped by then?

Personally, I'd really like to see the LS3. The LS1, LS2 and LS6 have been not only proven performers, but proven in durability as well. There is a lot of room to "play" with the LS3, as opposed to the LS7 with its thin cylinder walls already pushed to their limits.

Just a thought....

 

grrrrr. Read the bold print
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=424793

 

Keep growling because your post only supports the LS3 hypothesis. He says "any v8 that GM produces". There's nothing in there that says the LS7 is a definite.

Again, this is just an hypothesis, based on what I see coming down the pike from GM. A smaller cubed 450 hp LS3 seems like something that would make business sense to GM.

I'd like to see the LS7 myself. Actually, I'd like to see a supercharged LS2. Its just that it doesn't seem all that likely based on what I am reading and seeing.

If you can find anything of substance that contradicts the original post, then by all means, show us. But to date, I haven't seen a long term roadmap for the LS7, and furthermore, I have heard rumors of its demise.

I know this is just rumor and speculation, but then again, so is anyone's "reading" of Lutz's vague comments. For that matter, everything at this point is speculation.

 

Last time I told them they weren't getting an LS7 it turned in to a 15 page flame fest.
Let them believe whatever fantasy they want.

 

From the people at GM I've talked to, the word is that they are looking at ALL options. Honestly, if a version of the LS3 meets all the requirements; power, emissions, etc., but is oh, say, $5,000 cheaper than an LS7....well......

 

I think the LS7 is going to get phased out, to be replaced with the LS9 (Blown LS3).

So although 2 weeks ago I had come around to the LS7 Camaro idea, I'm not in the camp that think the LS3 will be the big dog Camaro motor, as well as the base Vette motor.

LS7-style heads, 6.2 liters, displacement on demand and variable cam timing.....I'm not going to complain.

 

I didn't know the LS3 would get LS7/C5R style heads...that's exciting news. I wonder if these are the same heads that GM is now selling as aftermarket performance parts?

 

to GM powertrain (again). Amazing stuff... when you look at how far these motors have evolved - amazing power, fuel economy and low emissions. Wonder what it will take to duplicate the LS9 oneself starting with an LS3; i.e. how ready will the LS3 be for someone to go slap on the same supercharger (well maybe not the same but one very similar)? Will it be programming and inectors or will there be many significant internal differences (read forged parts) between the two production motors.

Regardless, this is a heck of time to be a HP junky.

 

And your position was that Bob Lutz was just kidding when he said the Camaro could get the Z06 Corvette engine if it needed it.

 

WHERE did I mention LS7??? You said LS3 as the top motor, the LS3 will be the BASE performance V8 because the LS2 will be out of production. If GM is also building engines above that, why wouldn't they thoretically be available, as Bob himself pointed out?

 

Wrong. Read the bold print again...

"For production we would obviously do like we did in the old days -- you would have a popular-priced six-cylinder version, then you step up to an eight, then you step up to the next eight, all the way up to 500 hp or whatever size V-8s we have. Any V-8 engine that General Motors manufactures today is potentially slated for this car. You always would like to keep the Corvette with a few horsepower more than a Camaro. Theoretically, anything is possible."

"...up to 500 hp or whatever size V-8s we have. Any V-8 engine that General Motors manufactures today is potentially slated for this car."

This suppsrts the theory that Camaro has a chance to get a "top end" engine to compete with the Shelby. Ths LS3 is a 450ho engine, not "to 500 hp or whatever size V-8s we have. "

It also supports that there will be a base V6 and a normal (mid level) V8 (LS3).

 

i dont even care anymore.....I'm waiting for the damn car to be built

 

I'd be more pleased if the top dog Camaro was faster and more powerful than the base Corvette. If they want to be faster than us, let them buy a ZO6, don't restrict us to sub-par performance.

 

LS3 by '08? damn. LS2 had a short lifespan compared to the LS1.

 

The LS3 sounds sweet. I hope it is in the mid-range car for around 30K. Seems likehat might the case if the LS2 is phased out in that time frame. 450 HP, it is still almost unbelievable. I HOPE THEY BUILD THIS CAR!!

Hey "Stefan", changed the avatar I see. I guess too many people asked what in the world your monkey was doing in the other one, eh?