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Old May 22, 2008 | 08:16 AM
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There were some options that didnt make the cut. (Vehicle cost and weight were HUGE issues). They heard feedback from us on that.

Im taking this to mean its heavier than you liked and maybe a little more expensive than you thought it should be?¿
Old May 22, 2008 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL

There were some options that didnt make the cut. (Vehicle cost and weight were HUGE issues). They heard feedback from us on that.
Im taking this to mean its heavier than you liked and maybe a little more expensive than you thought it should be?¿
Well, either that, OR, due to weight & cost concerns, some things didn't make the cut?
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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Well, either that, OR, due to weight & cost concerns, some things didn't make the cut?
You can probably add anticipated demand as well. Things CAN change moving forward. As an example ... IIRC HUD was added to the ZO6 because the market demanded it.
Old May 22, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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You can probably add anticipated demand as well. Things CAN change moving forward. As an example ... IIRC HUD was added to the ZO6 because the market demanded it.
There have also been instances in the automobile manufacturing world that some things don't make the initial cut for one reason or another, but are still in progress.
Old May 22, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by savage99ss
Im taking this to mean its heavier than you liked and maybe a little more expensive than you thought it should be?¿
I wasnt speaking towards specifics, but more towards cost and weight were always considered when decisions on content were discussed.
Old May 22, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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...Listen to the next part of that Podcast. I ask what people didn't like. If I remember right, most said what they didn't like was pretty minor compared to what they did like...
I did. "Minor" stuff. No specifics because of details (or in two cases, the car was perfect). Heard most of the rest of the stuff that was talked about on here (more or less verbatim).

Thanks for putting them up.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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I did. "Minor" stuff. No specifics because of details (or in two cases, the car was perfect). Heard most of the rest of the stuff that was talked about on here (more or less verbatim).

Thanks for putting them up.
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I think Kevin put it well when he said to me on the way home.... "It's like we each walked in wanting 15 things, and we all came away with 12"
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:36 AM
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Hmmm....the 80% solution. I am certainly familier with that philosophy.
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:25 AM
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I think Kevin put it well when he said to me on the way home.... "It's like we each walked in wanting 15 things, and we all came away with 12"
This is a good sign!!! As soon as you are able to release the info on the things you didnt like, please let me know.

*Also would like to know, what was the biggest issue or (thing) that we will not see on the production car? Of course, when you are able to release info.
Old May 23, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
Hmmm....the 80% solution. I am certainly familier with that philosophy.
I'm not sure I like the direction you took this. I would never suggest the car is an "80% solution"

Lets make this really simple. It's a Camaro, so...

Does it look great... yup
Is it fast... yup
Does it handle well... yup
Is it comfortable... yup

The major bases are covered here.

The rest of the things we got into were really more of personal preferences. We were getting nickpciky. Things like... are the window switches on the doors or center console for example. That was one of my dislikes.
Old May 23, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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12 of 15 is 80%. Sorry if you don't like that I put it in different terms.

I'm not into the "nitpicky" stuff. The placement of window switches means nothing to me (the wife might have issues, though). I'm much more into the bigger items. To use your list:

I have no issues with the looks of the car - I like it.
Fast is relative. Will have to wait and see.
Handling is relative. Will have to wait and see.
Comfortable - probably won't have any issues with that either.

So for me, the "major bases" aren't close to being covered yet. I suppose I'll find out if they will be in September. And I'm sure you know my biggest issues. I'll spare you from posting them again.

Bob
Old May 23, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Sounds to me like the window switches are on the center console. The media is going to take swipes at that. I've never seen anyone prefer them in this location.
Old May 23, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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This pic from a few months back pretty clearly shows the switches in the door.I will be a bit miffed if they've been moved, just because that is time, money & effort that could have been spent on something more constructive. Nobody at all will complain about door mounted switches but quite a few will if they on the console.

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Old May 23, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
12 of 15 is 80%. Sorry if you don't like that I put it in different terms.

I'm not into the "nitpicky" stuff. The placement of window switches means nothing to me (the wife might have issues, though). I'm much more into the bigger items. To use your list:

I have no issues with the looks of the car - I like it.
Fast is relative. Will have to wait and see.
Handling is relative. Will have to wait and see.
Comfortable - probably won't have any issues with that either.

So for me, the "major bases" aren't close to being covered yet. I suppose I'll find out if they will be in September. And I'm sure you know my biggest issues. I'll spare you from posting them again.

Bob
The major bases wont be covered for you until you drive it. Nor should they be. and I'd say those criteria are more subjective than relative.
Old May 23, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Ok.

Have a nice day.
Bob

PS....I prefer the window switches on the door.



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