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Old May 24, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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I'll bet the auto is heavier than the manual.
Yeah you're right. The 6L80 has 88 pounds on the TR6060.

I change my guess to 3914 for the auto.
Old May 24, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby



The G8 weighs in at 3995 lbs. Substituting some numbers here gives us...

V8 Auto - 3914
V8 Manual - 3977

Boy I hope not. I really do.

Bob
I hope not either. But frankly, I wouldn't be shocked either.

I could probably put up with the "torque gauge" and the bizzarro interior, but a nearly two ton Camaro would leave me cold and unwilling to purchase one.
Old May 24, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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Just a matter of how much the ol' Sawzall will do...gotta put this fatty on a diet, only problem is you have to buy her first and hope you can convince her to lose some weight!
LOL. I've never taken a Sawzall to a car, and I hope to never do so. There are plenty of relatively easy ways to lose weight, but the lower you start, the better off you end up being.

We'll see.

I know this is most likely a no...but i wonder if anyone brought up the possibility of a solid axle swap, not as an option, just if there might be limited fabrication involved. Like a Terminator 8.8 swap.
All things are possible. However, New Edge Cobras (99/01 & 03-04) used the same mounting points as live axle GTs, thus the swap was very easy (I did it on both my 99 and my 04). If there isn't a live axle already made for the Zeta platform, then a swap will likely be somewhat more involved. Still, I'm sure the aftermarket (or even GM) would figure something out, assuming there is enough of a market.

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Old May 24, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Cosby
V8 Auto - 3914
V8 Manual - 3977
Those are indeed some ugly-azz numbers.
Old May 24, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Man I hope not, for that weight I will buy a Challenger, at least I will have some room in the back.
Old May 24, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
V8 Auto - 3914
V8 Manual - 3877


That'd be my guess, though I'd be happier the lower it got, just as most ppl on here would. Wouldn't stop me from purchase as long as the car 'felt good.
Old May 24, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Speaking of leg room and car seats.....

Can anyone say if the back seat is a bench seat or are they buckets as well. If this has been said already I apologize....

Thanks!!
Old May 24, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
V8 Auto - 14
V8 Manual - 77

I think...

V8 Auto - 3814
V8 Manual - 3777

..would make more sense. Yikes!

Does it carry a spare tire and jack or any lead bricks that can be easily removed?
Old May 24, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisL
V8 Auto - 14
V8 Manual - 77

why am I thinking that he is just BS'ing?
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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I have been following along for months on end now. Being a Mustang guy at heart I cant help but to be some what excited about the Camaro. Two things stand out in my mind. Weight, and price. We dont know either but Im guessing this sucker is going to be heavy. The reference to the G8 is all I needed to hear.

Some of the reliable sources of info have stated that this car will be heavy as well that are not part of the focus group but have been reliable in the past. I know its all rumors at the moment so take it for what its worth.

Time will tell all but I have to admit my excitement is not quite as big as it once was. I think there are some people who are going to be disappointed when the weight is final but we shall see. I hope Im wrong. I remember the out cry on the Mustang boards when the Gt 500 weight was out of the bag.
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Time will tell all but I have to admit my excitement is not quite as big as it once was. I think there are some people who are going to be disappointed when the weight is final but we shall see. I hope Im wrong. I remember the out cry on the Mustang boards when the Gt 500 weight was out of the bag.
Its hard to stay excited at times when we are all worried about the weight and price. All we can do now is hope GM really is doing what they can to make this car as great as it should be.

and welcome to the board!
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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Wow, more than the GTO's. That's ALOT of weight. And to think a fully loaded T-Top L98 IROC-Z was about 3,450LBS. and people thought that was alot then LOL! The Camaro seems to have gained about 400LBS. With two decent sized passengers this thing will be pulling over about 4,000LBS. if this is true.

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Old May 24, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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The Camaro will not be 3600 pounds but it should be under the G8 in wegiht. Think more in the 3800 pound range.

The car being shorter should be worth 120-200 pounds.

If you want less weight join Jenny Craig as it the Camaro had to have 5 star crash rating and lower cost or there was not going to be a Camaro.

Weight is a factor in all cars today as just check what the late 80's Honda CRX weight was vs the present smaller Honda Fit. They all have paid the price of weight and been covering it with the addition of power. That formula will not work in the future.

We may see a lighter Camaro later but it will come due to loss in size as will many of the new models. Only time will tell.

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Old May 24, 2008 | 11:26 PM
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I dont think it will weigh what a G8 does either by any means and the saving grace will be the LS3. Im a Ford guy but I really love the Gm power plants. Everybody has their priorities and GM has to make compromises as with any car company and I think this car will satisfy the masses even if it comes in a little heavy. Now the price may kill the deal for me personally as Im just a poor working stiff.

Im going to sit back and let the price fall out on them anyway and wait for the 11 Mustang anyway to compare as I think they may have a thing or two up their sleeve as well.
Old May 25, 2008 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevys
I dont think it will weigh what a G8 does either by any means and the saving grace will be the LS3. Im a Ford guy but I really love the Gm power plants. Everybody has their priorities and GM has to make compromises as with any car company and I think this car will satisfy the masses even if it comes in a little heavy. Now the price may kill the deal for me personally as Im just a poor working stiff.

Im going to sit back and let the price fall out on them anyway and wait for the 11 Mustang anyway to compare as I think they may have a thing or two up their sleeve as well.
Hmm Ford guy, GM powerplants....hard worker....Get yourself a clean notchback, toss in an LS3, at under 3000lbs you'd get phenominal mileage and walk away from everything!



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