"Fast Tracking" the Camaro?????
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Re: "Fast Tracking" the Camaro?????
Originally Posted by Capn Pete
You realize that C6's and C6 Z06's aren't hit by the "gas guzzler tax"? Their fuel mileage rating is no worse than other companies' V6's and such. GM does have the ability to build fuel efficient V8's. DoD (displacement on demand) has also helped get better overall efficiency as well.
To build on the C6 example, the M6 model gets 18/28 mpg. A Solstice, that is actually a lighter car with a much smaller engine, gets 20/28. There's not a lot of penalty for high performance anymore if it's done right.
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Originally Posted by IREngineer
People should not be swayed by every thing they hear. A guy could go crazy...
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Originally Posted by turbo96z28
i know Red can't comment, but i wonder if Guy or Charlie will jump in with some thoughts???
Originally Posted by Chrome383Z
I'm hoping it was fast tracked a long time ago and closer to production then we may know. That CAD drawing was more then just a "prototype" I believe...
....and you're right. That CAD drawing was more than a prototype. When GM talks about doing something, it's probally already done. Remember Mark Reuss' comments on what would need to be done to get a Camaro chassis some months ago?
Originally Posted by Big Als Z
While I love for the Camaro to be "fast tracked", I would not want it to sacrafice the new Malibu or other EPII cars. If the Malibu is as nice as they say it is, Chevy will need it right away to start to really cut into the CamCord buyers, not to mention fight off the Sonata and Fusion.
Espilon 2 by all accounts is a slightly larger AWD capable chassis. Europe is likely to get it first, but it's by no means a priority here. GM has other options available if they push back E2 a couple of years (presumably to free up resources for the RWD chassis.... much like the RWD was held up for GMT900). One option is using the new design on the existing Malibu. Another option is to use tha longer G6-Malibu Maxx version of the Espilon for this restyled Malibu.
Malibu is older than G6, and will likely be redone 1st. I can easily see Malibu on E1, and G6 going on E2 a couple of years later, with yet another Malibu done a couple of years afterwards.
Originally Posted by Mike2001SS
Everyone is missing the real point as to why it needs to be fast tracked
You forget uncle sam and our nuts in Washington.
Right now we have a chance to get some of the best performance cars ever but this will not last with energy cost going the way it is and Washington wanting cars that get 50 mpg and better and all the nuts that think a car or anything can be built to keep a dumb *** safe.
You better make good of these cars because to many nuts in this country will stop you from having them if at any cost they can.
You forget uncle sam and our nuts in Washington.
Right now we have a chance to get some of the best performance cars ever but this will not last with energy cost going the way it is and Washington wanting cars that get 50 mpg and better and all the nuts that think a car or anything can be built to keep a dumb *** safe.
You better make good of these cars because to many nuts in this country will stop you from having them if at any cost they can.
There is nothing on the plate pushing cars to get 50 mpg. There is nothing proposed aiming to get cars to 50 mpg.
You also are unaware of the Transportation Department's requirement that all new regulations be accompanied with it's economic impact on the US. This serves as a check on outlandish proposals.
You can also view all proposed regulations on the NHTSA website. Outside of new interior safety standards (primarily aimed to keep your mellon from smashing against the "A" pillar or the upper edge of the windshield frame and roof standards that basically standarize what most all cars already meet anyway), there are no new substantial safety regulations scheduled for the remainder of the decade. To top it off, all new major regulations need a number of years to phase in (the regulations that doomed the 4th gen started in '97 and will be completely phased in by next September... about 9 years).
Finally, if you look at some of the high powered V8 engines GM is putting out (the 300+ horsepower 5.3, the now deceased 350 horse 5.7, the 400+ horse 6.0, and the soon to be shown 6.2) and compare to some of the multi cam V6's from everyone else, fuel economy is hardly something to be worried about.
The only thing that's going to derail the new performance era is an economic collaspe or the insurence industry revising their role from 1969.
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Re: "Fast Tracking" the Camaro?????
^^^thanks for sharing what you can Guy. i know Red is going to be bursting at the seams with info after the dust settles from NAIAS, but i just wanted to get an idea of where we stand with all of the rumors of delays and cancellations that have been floating around.
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