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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Sigma and CZ6's front subframe look much different. I really want to get a picture up of Epsilon's front end.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
Isn't the center section (purple-ish) where the resonator is, the section where length could be taken from?

I'm guessing from 6" - 9" could be removed w/o much trouble....
That's exactly where length would be added/subtracted. The problem here, is that the wheelbase appears to be about 111-112", about what I'd expect a modern Camaro to be. But if you base a Camaro on that chassis, (as it is), it looks like Camaro would be larger than a GTO.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharker524
Let's not forget that to GM, the LS1 4th gens were considered the 5th generation. So that CZ"6" could just denote Camaro Zeta 6th Gen.
WHAT????
Sez who? no one..and I mean NO ONE within GM ever thought that the LS1 4th gen was a 5th gen. And.......if you know of anyone within GM who actually said that, please enlighten me so that I may go flog them about the head in a rather violent fashion!!!
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:33 AM
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet
WHAT????
Sez who? no one..and I mean NO ONE within GM ever thought that the LS1 4th gen was a 5th gen. And.......if you know of anyone within GM who actually said that, please enlighten me so that I may go flog them about the head in a rather violent fashion!!!

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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet
WHAT????
Sez who? no one..and I mean NO ONE within GM ever thought that the LS1 4th gen was a 5th gen. And.......if you know of anyone within GM who actually said that, please enlighten me so that I may go flog them about the head in a rather violent fashion!!!

i've heard stories from some of the guys around here about him removing their hat and proceeding to beat them senseless with it.


Sharker524...........you have been warned.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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Blah, I was waiting for someone who actually knew something to chime in. It was posted here a while back, and I guess I took it a bit too seriously. GM isn't known to be the smartest of folk, I saw no reason to doubt
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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i took that .. was it a GTO chassis? anyway.. i tried to match the transmission sizes, got as close as i could then blacked out the whole CZ6 chassis except for the transmission and overlayed it on top of the GTO chassis with some transparensy.. it seems to be quite a bit larger of a chassis, wider, longer, and longer wheelbase.. remember.. the blacked out chassis diagram doesnt have bodywork either, which is why the wheels stick out so far from it


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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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almost makes it look like the CZ6 chassis shoud be a 4 door, but the proportions just don't make any sense to me if they are for a coupe.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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my little overlay diagram can't be right.. cause with the GTO's 109.8" wheelbase.. that puts the CZ6 at 127.4 inches or so based on my comparison.. gotta be wrong
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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hey FS, did you try resizing the rear diffs to be equal on the GTO and CZ6?
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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i did not try that.. you think they are the same one?

i gotta go now, maybe i'll try it later tonight though
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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looks like they are the same. it was one of the only things other than the trans i could think of to size the CZ6 to.
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by FS3800
my little overlay diagram can't be right.. cause with the GTO's 109.8" wheelbase.. that puts the CZ6 at 127.4 inches or so based on my comparison.. gotta be wrong
Yeah, either that or the CZ6 has 325 mm tires all the way around
Old Dec 11, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FS3800
my little overlay diagram can't be right.. cause with the GTO's 109.8" wheelbase.. that puts the CZ6 at 127.4 inches or so based on my comparison.. gotta be wrong
Just some food for thought, it could be a visual trick of the CAD program they're using. I don't know which CAD program they're using but I know a lot of them have a "perspective" option in the display settings that changes the way proportions look on screen.

The UGS NX3 CAD program that I use as an aerospace engineering student has that option which makes things look significantly different depending on which perspective option is chosen.

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