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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

Originally Posted by rgenzmer
You guys might want to listen more to MSNBC and other financial news networks instead of just the Car Mags. Money will drive this issue, not want or emotion etc. GM has plenty of $ problems and an impending deal with Renault coming up to worry about taking a chance with a Muscle Car. Besides, along with the 'stang there will be a year head start with that bitchin' Challenger.

Proud owner of many Camaro's in my 55 years but have to strip the emotion from this issue and look at the dollars and cents.

Ain't going to happen. Restore what you got now and make it last.

Out.
I'm in investments, actually. So yeah, I'm on the market like glue. Go check out GM's latest earnings report, and then come on here and tell us what you learned....

Furthermore, there is no 'impending' deal with Renault. It's merely an 'exploration' at this point. Don't assume you know what information I'm aware of, or not aware of. Obviously, many factors come into play....that is why we are all so anxious to hear an actual announcement.

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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

Originally Posted by rgenzmer

Ain't going to happen. Restore what you got now and make it last.
I find it hard to beleive that GM would dump so many millions into a something that "aint going to happen." Also, GM was working on the the Camaro project long before they hit the recent "sigh of releif" profit margins. They were dumping 5 million into the project even while the "bankruptcy" word kept getting whispered. GM wants this car just as bad as we do.

If it were just a marketing scheme, then it didn't wor----wait a second, how did that Cobalt SS/SC get into my driveway 2 weeks after the AJC auto show? HOLY CRAP, i've been tricked!
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

Originally Posted by rgenzmer
You guys might want to listen more to MSNBC and other financial news networks instead of just the Car Mags. Money will drive this issue, not want or emotion etc. GM has plenty of $ problems and an impending deal with Renault coming up to worry about taking a chance with a Muscle Car. Besides, along with the 'stang there will be a year head start with that bitchin' Challenger.

Proud owner of many Camaro's in my 55 years but have to strip the emotion from this issue and look at the dollars and cents.

Ain't going to happen. Restore what you got now and make it last.

Out.
You know what they say about opinions...

You're right! You are "Out". As in out of touch.

Care to make a friendly wager on this?
Old Jul 27, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

Originally Posted by Fbodfather
well...coulda said 20XX or 20JJ or 20mm.......but I didn't!
Should have reported this post to the moderators as a bad post Nice sig. Scott, oh by the way your autograph you left on my strut tower a few years ago at the Woodstock Ontario Camaro Nationals has faded, let me know next time you are in the area to touch it up

Thanks
Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:51 PM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

Just because a company such as GM 'turns the corner by making some money' still doesn't mean they have turned the corner for the business model they are.

A company dealing in sales of products can 'make' money several different ways. One of those ways is expense management or cost reduction that goes right to the bottom line and reflects that the company 'made' money.

One other way is to actually increase sales of their products, penetrate new markets and increase profit margins on those sales.

I believe that GM has 'made' money due to expense management or cost cutting and not necessarily by increasing sales. As most financial analysts would tell you that to continue year after year 'making' money by cost reductions and not through increasing sales is a train coming at you approximately 3-5 years down the road. And guess what GM wants coming down the road 3-5 years from now....yep, the Concept Crumaro.

If they don't work on 'making' money by increasing sales (which they aren't), opening new market in the USA (which they aren't) or increasing their margins (0 percent financing, rebates, incentives, etc.) aren't. In fact they are actually squeezing their margins with those programs.

I would love to see GM come out of it, I would love to see them penetrate something other than the SUV market but taking a 'concept car chance' is not what GM should be doing now.

As a fairly well known person (his name is on the Super Bowl trophy) once said - practice the fundamentals, practice, practice, practice - then we will mix in a trick (concept) play.

GM, get your fundamentals in order, sales up, redesign that psuedo Cadillac you call a Camaro and then send me the number of the nearest dealer.

Peace out
Old Aug 4, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

Originally Posted by 96ZED28
Should have reported this post to the moderators as a bad post Nice sig. Scott, oh by the way your autograph you left on my strut tower a few years ago at the Woodstock Ontario Camaro Nationals has faded, let me know next time you are in the area to touch it up

Thanks
He must've been using a cheap pen that day... mine faded as well. Scott was kind enough to "touch it up" in Bowling Green for me a couple of years ago. Come down to B.G. next month and I'm sure he'll do the same for you!

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Elie
Old Aug 5, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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Re: Car Craft Editor acknowledges new Camaro production...

I hear the engineers are already at Oshawa working on the factory floor.
Old Aug 7, 2007 | 11:47 AM
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I never said anything about the new Camaro at the Nats.
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Old Aug 7, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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I never said anything about the new Camaro at the Nats.
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Thanks for clearing that up....now how about Car Craft subscriptions for the 5th-gen faithful?
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