you already know the volt will be sporty? wow.......

why would it be dead? with gas prices going up more people will consider that in their car choices. i'd bet most V6 buyers would look at a hybrid as well.

 

For the first couple of years I'm sure we will only see the engines people have speculated about thus far.

3.6L 300 hp V6
6.0/6.2/5.3L 430 hp V8
6.2L S/C 500+ hp V8

But if the Camaro is a success in the first couple of years I can see GM offering a hybrid in a couple years time.

 

they should offer it in the first year.

 

Most V6 buyers in general yes. However a RWD 2dr hybrid coupe does not make sense whether you call it a Camaro, M3 or a kumquat.

 

why?

 

I agree 150% with you on this. Hybrids IMO aren't even as cost effective as diesels in being the best way for car manufacturers to reach new CAFE standards.

However, perhaps it's being surrounded by alot of those people out here in the bay area, but the word "Hybrid" seems to be holding steady or increasing in stature.

Whereas before, there was nothing but those smug, arrogant folks in their Prius, today there are not only Ford Escape Hybrids everywhere, regular Honda and Toyota sedans with discreet Hybrid labels on the fenders aare poping up just about as much as regular versions of those cars are.

Females in college who know not a single thing about cars, and wouldn't know what a spark plug looks like, are very amored with the word "Hybrid".

Having a Camaro version that is a Hybrid will no doubt be a hit with this type of crowd.

Keep in mind that as of this very moment, there isn't any affordable stylish 2 door coupe on the market that is a Hybrid..... and I'd even venture that there isn't any 2 door coupe period that is a Hybrid!

Camaro with a Malibu-like Hybrid option has a wide open, untapped market.

Better tap it before Ford or some Japaneese based car maker does.

 

(I'm also thinking cars like Cobalt could benefit stupendously with a mild Hybrid option)

Didn't someone from GM recently say that they hope to start putting that system into many more vehicles over time? Which will help lower the cost of the Hybrid system, and boost the economy of lots of cars.

I wouldn't be against having a mild hybrid (Malibu-type) Camaro AT ALL. I say bring it on; It's the most affordable Hybrid system out there right now, apply it!

 

That's my point. There is a reason that no stylish 2-door hybrid coupe exists today. Hybrids need to be highly aerodynamic and lightweight in order to offset the extra weight of the battery pack. As ugly as the Prius is, it is highly aerodynamic. I honestly don't see this Camaro fitting the basic criteria of a hybrid. Furthermore, GM currently has two basic hybrid systems currently in production, the ecotec based one in the Malibu, and the V8 one in the Tahoe/Silverado and GMC sister vehicles. None of these are very fitting for the new Camaro. Furthermore, with the Volt on the near horizon, I doubt GM would jeopordize its fanfare by using the plug-in system planned for it in the Camaro.

The bottom line is if fuel economy is a big concern over what is offered with a DI V6 or a AFM V8, then the next logical step with be a turbo ecotec. Heck and while we're at it, they may as well make it a diesel.

 

I'm doubt the Malibu is any more aerodynamic than the Camaro, I'd hope it's less, actually. And it's certainly less than the Prius. And they've got the Ecotec-based Hybrid system in the Saturn Vue, which weighs in at a hefty 3800 lbs (Camaro shouldn't be any more than that with the V8)

So my question is why isn't it "fitting" for the Camaro? Why couldn't they put the mild hybrid system in the V6 model? I mean, all it really is, is a beefed-up Alternator, and a battery. Apply that to the V6, and I think they could have a winner in the stylish coupe market. If that doesn't sound good, then go ahead and put it in with the Ecotec they're thinking about. That's a plausible route, too.

 

why not the turbo 4cyl combined with a hybrid. i'd like to see a full one not the mild one. the mild one gets hit too bad in the press.

 

That's what I mean.

I haven't noticed any bad press about it...it's just that nobody seems to care about them when compared to full hybrids like the Tahoe, or the Prius. But they are the cheapest, and most cost-effective system out there, imo. And GM is going to be updating their system, by using Li-Ion batteries instead of the ones they've got now. That will allow it to actually move under electric power, as opposed to just stop and start the engine. It's expected to add another 2-3 mpg on top of the current version.

 

Cylinder deactivation will be viable for some fuel economy. Though I still don't know what kind of market there is for a hybrid version of American Muscle.

 

thats my point. people need to care.

 

Hybrids are pet rocks


You guys don't get it. Look how far the transportation industry has advanced in the last 100 years. Hybrids are just the start of a new era. Battery and motor technology are evolving at a fantastic rate. Hell, look how far we have come since the days of the 70's electric cars. They were just a fad then. Now they are becoming mainstream in the form of hybrids. If someone told you that you could have a high performance car that could drive 500 miles on a single charge, could recharge in 15 minutes and cost less than a conventional car, I bet you would jump at the chance to buy it.

Fifteen years from now this technology will be doing things we would think impossible now. The internal combustion engine is just a chapter in our technological progression. A hundred years from now we will probably only see them in museums.

 

why would we want a diesel camaro if diesel cost way more then premium