...back from Milford, ...my thoughts.
08-25-2010, 08:19 PM
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Actually when I had a free moment I decided to take a look at the previous models. At least since '05, the convertibles (GT and GT500, didn't find the data on the V6) have had softer springs and shocks, in some cases different sway bars. Basically they seem to be trying to optimize them for touring rather than handling. It isn't like they are alone in this regard, as many manufactures will make a drop top ride a little softer than a coupe. From a sales standpoint it makes sense; a 'vert is about having a good time cruising around with the top down so might as well soften it up and capture more mainstream buyers.
08-25-2010, 09:15 PM
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Think about what a Z28 'vert would weigh. 
I'm guessing you'd be in the ballpark of the Cadillac SRX, maybe more.
In all seriousness it is really no surprise that the Camaro convertible would feel more "planted" or stable. IRS and a few hundred pounds will do that for ya.
I'm guessing you'd be in the ballpark of the Cadillac SRX, maybe more.In all seriousness it is really no surprise that the Camaro convertible would feel more "planted" or stable. IRS and a few hundred pounds will do that for ya.
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08-26-2010, 01:34 AM
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Fanboy?
Hmmmmm.....it's too bad we can't allow cameras to video everything said.
Let me assure you that while there is enthusiasm on the part of most disciples, they are not shy about telling us what they - and you -- want. That was the whole point in having 'disciples' -- do you know of any other manufacturer that has disciples? Yes, there are clinics - but I don't know of any other manufacturer of automobiles that is doing what the Camaro team is doing in terms of bringing people who are well-known in their local community to give input into the product.
Now - let me ask you a question: Let's assume you were picked as a disciple - and someone on a site called you a "fanboy" - -how do you think you would feel?
I think you should think twice about name-calling. In my opinion, it's insulting.
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08-26-2010, 06:24 AM
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Yes, I do believe he did.
I'd also suggest that while I probably don't wish to know what a Convertible SS weighs, it is likely most potential buyers don't even care. This is similar to the belief that most potential Mustang Convertible owners aren't too worried about corner-carving, or how the car feels at 120+ mph.
I'd also suggest that while I probably don't wish to know what a Convertible SS weighs, it is likely most potential buyers don't even care. This is similar to the belief that most potential Mustang Convertible owners aren't too worried about corner-carving, or how the car feels at 120+ mph.
08-26-2010, 06:45 AM
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First off, Im extremely jealous of you guys.
I know you guys cant comment much on what you saw and what was discussed. I trust that the input you guys provided reflected well on what we all want/dont want.
Can you provide any insight on issues concerning weight of the vehicle and power increases on any of the engines? How about suspension refinements?
Im holding off buying one for the next year or so. Reason for that is I want to see if there are any worthwhile changes for the 2012 model year.
I plan on buying an SS or a "certain" model if it becomes available. But I think it would be very cool to offer a performance package for the V6. Make it lighter, more powerful, and a tighter suspension.
I know you guys cant comment much on what you saw and what was discussed. I trust that the input you guys provided reflected well on what we all want/dont want.
Can you provide any insight on issues concerning weight of the vehicle and power increases on any of the engines? How about suspension refinements?
Im holding off buying one for the next year or so. Reason for that is I want to see if there are any worthwhile changes for the 2012 model year.
I plan on buying an SS or a "certain" model if it becomes available. But I think it would be very cool to offer a performance package for the V6. Make it lighter, more powerful, and a tighter suspension.
08-26-2010, 06:57 AM
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To the first part above, ...it may not address the problem, however (as noted) it may help 'minimize/mitigate' feeling the affect. C&D's comment does seem on the mark in this case.
But, not every buyer is the same. This softer ride may not only NOT be a problem for many, ...it may be desired.
Ref. HazMat's other post, ...this is SO true... :
"I have a feeling that Ford has a softer ride quality target with the convertible which is why they made the changes. Their research probably indicated that in their market the majority of Mustang buyers that opt for the 'vert prefer more comfort and less handling... "
08-26-2010, 08:57 AM
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08-26-2010, 09:16 AM
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Just something for GM to think about (hopefully it's been brought up and this will only reenforce the need for it)
On my mom's Cadillac key fob you have to hold the button for the hatch to pop open...this would be awesome on the trunk release for the Camaro...I'm constantly accidentally opening the trunk when climbing in the car, having to hold the button for a second or two would put a stop to me having to get back out of the car close the trunk and then climb back in.
Not a huge deal, but it would be nice...
On my mom's Cadillac key fob you have to hold the button for the hatch to pop open...this would be awesome on the trunk release for the Camaro...I'm constantly accidentally opening the trunk when climbing in the car, having to hold the button for a second or two would put a stop to me having to get back out of the car close the trunk and then climb back in.
Not a huge deal, but it would be nice...
08-26-2010, 11:07 AM
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-Geoff
