All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
06-10-2006, 02:38 AM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Why not ask for something better than an LS7?
Maybe next time your friend buys a Camaro, it will be such a car that he won't have to resort to dropping in a new engine, to go faster. Maybe he'll just need a couple hundred bucks in parts.
Maybe next time your friend buys a Camaro, it will be such a car that he won't have to resort to dropping in a new engine, to go faster. Maybe he'll just need a couple hundred bucks in parts.
06-10-2006, 04:21 AM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by number77
Why not ask for something better than an LS7?
Me? I'd be perfectly content with THE LS7's 505 horsepower
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06-10-2006, 07:47 AM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by cjmatt
Went for a ride tonight in my buddies LS7 Powered SS and all I can say is wow. GM, if youre listening, this car needs an LS7!!!!
06-10-2006, 11:50 AM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by number77
Why not ask for something better than an LS7?
Maybe next time your friend buys a Camaro, it will be such a car that he won't have to resort to dropping in a new engine, to go faster. Maybe he'll just need a couple hundred bucks in parts.
Maybe next time your friend buys a Camaro, it will be such a car that he won't have to resort to dropping in a new engine, to go faster. Maybe he'll just need a couple hundred bucks in parts.
Intake, exhaust cam LS7s have made over 600rwhp. I think some of them are making around 650rwhp, if I remember correctly. Hoiw much more power do you actually want?
06-10-2006, 12:08 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by cjmatt
Went for a ride tonight in my buddies LS7 Powered SS and all I can say is wow. GM, if youre listening, this car needs an LS7!!!!
Taking you at your word, and your 'buddy' sprang the $18,000 for an LS7 crate engine, plus $$$ for instillation and programing, it's a sure bet that Camaro won't have this engine, and for anyone wanting a shot at affording this car, that's a good thing IMO.
First off, LS7 is a hand made, high cost and content, low production engine. The facility it's made at simply can't make more LS7s than it already does.
Secondly, the most cost effective way to create power is via supercharger. Though it's heavier, it's also far and away cheaper than an LS7. I can easily see the system being developed for the $100,000 Stingray being bolted to a smaller, lower cost engine for the "Super Camaro".
LS7s cost 18 grand. A supercharger & intercooler system is about 5, and produces the same power. Which do you think GM is going to go with.
Finally, by all accounts, the engines slated for Camaro aren't in production yet. The displacements are mostly in existence now, but the actual engines and horsepower isn't.
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06-10-2006, 12:44 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
I dont believe id want 505hp on a lil 4" bore hypereutectic (sp?) piston. Thats asking a lot for a driven car.
It isnt as bad spread over the LS7's larger bore space.
500hp is pushing it on a 6.0L motor without at least a forged piston and a minor fuel pump upgrade and some tuning software.
I know some guys are "doing it already" but im talking about for 150K plus miles.
It isnt as bad spread over the LS7's larger bore space.
500hp is pushing it on a 6.0L motor without at least a forged piston and a minor fuel pump upgrade and some tuning software.
I know some guys are "doing it already" but im talking about for 150K plus miles.
06-10-2006, 12:59 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by guionM
First off, LS7 is a hand made, high cost and content, low production engine. The facility it's made at simply can't make more LS7s than it already does.
LS7s cost 18 grand. A supercharger & intercooler system is about 5, and produces the same power. Which do you think GM is going to go with.
LS7s cost 18 grand. A supercharger & intercooler system is about 5, and produces the same power. Which do you think GM is going to go with.
Still less than an LS7, but alot more than just $5k. Not to mention, the supercharged engine would need to be redone correctly to be supercharged and to hopefully keep warranty repairs to a minimum.
And they keep saying weight is a big issue. I'm hoping for some 6.X liter LSx variant making 450-500hp in the top dog.
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06-10-2006, 01:30 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by RussStang
Intake, exhaust cam LS7s have made over 600rwhp. I think some of them are making around 650rwhp, if I remember correctly. Hoiw much more power do you actually want?
Originally Posted by guionM
The displacements are mostly in existence now, but the actual engines and horsepower isn't.
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06-10-2006, 01:44 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
06-10-2006, 01:47 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
http://www.paceperformance.com/index...&ProdID=154032
The LS7 is under 14K, FWIW.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...QQcmdZViewItem
Here is a used LS2 and trans too out of a wrecked car.
The LS7 is under 14K, FWIW.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2005-...QQcmdZViewItem
Here is a used LS2 and trans too out of a wrecked car.
06-10-2006, 02:04 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by number77
Well, I'm not sure how long that would last.
06-10-2006, 02:05 PM
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Re: All I know is that the 5th Gen better have an LS7
Originally Posted by guionM
An LS7 in a Camaro SS. :blah:
Taking you at your word, and your 'buddy' sprang the $18,000 for an LS7 crate engine, plus $$$ for instillation and programing, it's a sure bet that Camaro won't have this engine, and for anyone wanting a shot at affording this car, that's a good thing IMO.
Taking you at your word, and your 'buddy' sprang the $18,000 for an LS7 crate engine, plus $$$ for instillation and programing, it's a sure bet that Camaro won't have this engine, and for anyone wanting a shot at affording this car, that's a good thing IMO.