I don't know dude.

You said this:

And now you say that that would only give you a 2-4% margin of error compared to the performance of a 5th gen.

How do you quantify that 2-4%?

You're talking like you're spewing facts - when in acuality you're making wild guesses.

 

Well, the possible 2-4% margin of error - could be caused by a several different factors. A modified Gen 4 & the production Gen 5.

These 4 possible factors, and the true is there could be a few more that I have thought of.

1st - is a difference in actual car's weight.

2nd - is aerodynamics(ie Drag Coefficient).

3rd - is Drive Ratios

4rd - is simple difference in indivdual drivers.

 

- What is the 5th gen's actual weight?

- What is the 5th gen CD?

- What are the 5th gen's axle ratios ( or better yet effective torque multiplication)?

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hmmmm....guess you don't know .

And then you compare all of these unknown factors to a modified 4th gen....and get a 2-4% margin of error?

 

 

That's right, Z284ever ... I don't know what the exact Weight, CD, or axle Ratios for the 5th Gen Camaro. No one outside of GM does - and I bet very few people inside GM actually know. Hence the margin of error.

My whole point in Motor Trend - should have tested different 4th Gen Camaros with the modification I stated - in order to get a better sample of real world conditions - instead of just plugging "their best guesses" into a computer sim that has test conditions in a Vacuum.

The Truth is the only way we will truely know how the new Camaro stacks up against the new Mustang - is a full on road test in 2009 - or when ever it hits the streets. Til then all the computers sims in the world are total meaningless.

 

I'd be willing to bet the 5th gen V-6 camaro, in one form of trim at least, will run somewhere in the mid to high 13's in the quarter. (Oh and I do know I mentioned that their would only be one level of V-6 before, I like to play the misinformation game just as much as some of rest of you)

See I can do the winky thing too. Haha, but yes a nice possibly DI V-6 putting out 300 horses should propel it quite nicely. Now how well it will end up being able to be launched is another thing entirely.

 

I am pretty sure his whole point was that using the 4th gen as a basis of comparison would be just as meaningless, considering how different the 5th gen will be.

Honestly, I would probably trust the computer simulation more than how a 4th gen performs modified to the Motor Trend criteria.

 

I have a time of a 2003 350Z with Track Package rated at 287HP and 3197lbs with a 6 speed care of Sport Compact Car: 14.1s @ 99.3mph. The 2006 has 300HP and is listed at 3400lbs curb weight on Edmunds, but I don't have any quarter mile times for it. So, what you said would not be outside the realm of possibility.

 

Must have been a slow month for Motor Trend! I took a pear at it while waiting at the drug store. I can't beleive they would print this blatent speculation. Its no doubt fun to imagine or wish but to pair these cars up years in advance is silly!

 

I flipped through the article. It looks like the Camaro beats the Mustang even in hypothetical events!