[Interior] NEWS: Spy Shots: 2009 Chevy Camaro caught - interior too!
01-05-2008, 09:02 AM
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01-05-2008, 09:28 AM
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At 120+, I would advise NOT glancing down period. Oh, and I would also strongly advise no 120+, period, unless on a track designed for that speed. Seriously. Unless you like this look
. Just MHO.
01-05-2008, 09:35 AM
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I think the gauges look pretty cool, and would be a good conversation point. Doesn't bother me.
But I will reiterate in gigantic text:
I HATE THAT STEERING WHEEL!
I understand what the designers were trying to do (three spoke, the small horn button type look) but that style does not work with an airbag in there because the airbag is so big!
But I will reiterate in gigantic text:
I HATE THAT STEERING WHEEL!
I understand what the designers were trying to do (three spoke, the small horn button type look) but that style does not work with an airbag in there because the airbag is so big!
01-05-2008, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fbodfather
OK -- some thoughts. (after 235 posts that I can't get the whole way thru.......)
1. when I first saw the leaked pics of the interior I was shocked -- for two reasons -- one was it was unauthorized.....two because it looks really bad. Now -- I've seen the final interior design -- and these pics really look bad. ....(So - that's another reason we don't like pics to just appear -- remember all the screaming and carrying on when the white car showed up with the bra -- notice that people have changed their tune already in what, two weeks?)
2. this site seems to be the one site that really has problems with everything about Camaro -- and I've finally figured it out -- it's a few people on this site -- not the majority.....
3. When someone DOES agree with me or one of the 'winkie' club members (someone else's label - not mine) they're accused of -- for lack of a better term -- sucking up. I find that reprehensible. Trust me - I've yet to find a Camaro enthusiast who isn't afraid to speak their mind....
Get real.
4. Console gages......probably one of the most polarizing issues surrounding the concept car.
We got TONS of emails and snailmail and personal visits on them -- and people felt strongly one way or another.
Yup -- we could 'play it safe' and put an IP in there that resembles every midsize sedan out there -- or we could give you something that says "Camaro" -- silly us. I believe in the final analysis that people will like this interior WHEN FINISHED.
They are a historic Camaro cue from the 1st gen car. What makes you think that those are the ONLY gages in the car? Think of the word "redundancy" -- (dang...there's that winkie again!)
5. I go back to the hysteria surrounding the leaked Oshawa photo a couple of weeks ago -- the white car with front and rear bra -- and some people on this site lost their minds. ONCE AGAIN I asked everyone to calm down - and lo and behold -- Ed Peper puts a picture of a white production intent Camaro out there this week -- and wow -- tunes have changed. All I'm asking you is to calm down -- and give the car a chance.
6. I've said this many times before........ANYTIME we change something on a Camaro or a Corvette -- 50% will love it -- 50% will hate it - and 80% of the 50% who hate it will love it or like it 90 days after the car comes out........and I suspect this will happen as well on the Camaro.
7. The 2nd Gen Fcars were highly controversial -- so were the 4th gens -- the C5? People loved it or hated it -- much more negative comments than on the new Camaro. C6? you would have thought the world was coming to an end the way some people caterwalled..........
Frankly -- the response to this car far exceeds our expectations when looking at the many sites out there. Sorry that a few of you don't like what you see. I'm hoping that you'll change your mind when you see it in person.
In the final analysis -- most people on this site feel very strongly about Camaro -- I just ask you to hold off 'til you can sit in a production car -- then make final judgement.
1. when I first saw the leaked pics of the interior I was shocked -- for two reasons -- one was it was unauthorized.....two because it looks really bad. Now -- I've seen the final interior design -- and these pics really look bad. ....(So - that's another reason we don't like pics to just appear -- remember all the screaming and carrying on when the white car showed up with the bra -- notice that people have changed their tune already in what, two weeks?)
2. this site seems to be the one site that really has problems with everything about Camaro -- and I've finally figured it out -- it's a few people on this site -- not the majority.....
3. When someone DOES agree with me or one of the 'winkie' club members (someone else's label - not mine) they're accused of -- for lack of a better term -- sucking up. I find that reprehensible. Trust me - I've yet to find a Camaro enthusiast who isn't afraid to speak their mind....
Get real.
4. Console gages......probably one of the most polarizing issues surrounding the concept car.
We got TONS of emails and snailmail and personal visits on them -- and people felt strongly one way or another.
Yup -- we could 'play it safe' and put an IP in there that resembles every midsize sedan out there -- or we could give you something that says "Camaro" -- silly us. I believe in the final analysis that people will like this interior WHEN FINISHED.
They are a historic Camaro cue from the 1st gen car. What makes you think that those are the ONLY gages in the car? Think of the word "redundancy" -- (dang...there's that winkie again!)
5. I go back to the hysteria surrounding the leaked Oshawa photo a couple of weeks ago -- the white car with front and rear bra -- and some people on this site lost their minds. ONCE AGAIN I asked everyone to calm down - and lo and behold -- Ed Peper puts a picture of a white production intent Camaro out there this week -- and wow -- tunes have changed. All I'm asking you is to calm down -- and give the car a chance.
6. I've said this many times before........ANYTIME we change something on a Camaro or a Corvette -- 50% will love it -- 50% will hate it - and 80% of the 50% who hate it will love it or like it 90 days after the car comes out........and I suspect this will happen as well on the Camaro.
7. The 2nd Gen Fcars were highly controversial -- so were the 4th gens -- the C5? People loved it or hated it -- much more negative comments than on the new Camaro. C6? you would have thought the world was coming to an end the way some people caterwalled..........
Frankly -- the response to this car far exceeds our expectations when looking at the many sites out there. Sorry that a few of you don't like what you see. I'm hoping that you'll change your mind when you see it in person.
In the final analysis -- most people on this site feel very strongly about Camaro -- I just ask you to hold off 'til you can sit in a production car -- then make final judgement.
01-05-2008, 10:36 AM
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4. Console gages......probably one of the most polarizing issues surrounding the concept car.
We got TONS of emails and snailmail and personal visits on them -- and people felt strongly one way or another.
Yup -- we could 'play it safe' and put an IP in there that resembles every midsize sedan out there -- or we could give you something that says "Camaro" -- silly us. I believe in the final analysis that people will like this interior WHEN FINISHED.
They are a historic Camaro cue from the 1st gen car. What makes you think that those are the ONLY gages in the car? Think of the word "redundancy" --
(dang...there's that winkie again!)
We got TONS of emails and snailmail and personal visits on them -- and people felt strongly one way or another.
Yup -- we could 'play it safe' and put an IP in there that resembles every midsize sedan out there -- or we could give you something that says "Camaro" -- silly us. I believe in the final analysis that people will like this interior WHEN FINISHED.
They are a historic Camaro cue from the 1st gen car. What makes you think that those are the ONLY gages in the car? Think of the word "redundancy" --
(dang...there's that winkie again!)I would like to see a digital DIC screen between the two of the guages. I think that the bar for interior design has been raised very high with the new Malibu.
Lets just say, hypotheticly GM got bad press over the interior. I would assume that there are or were at least 2 or 3 other designs in the running. How much longer would it take for GM to reverse gear, get one of the other designs ready for production, send it out to suppliers, and get it mocked up and ready?
5. I go back to the hysteria surrounding the leaked Oshawa photo a couple of weeks ago -- the white car with front and rear bra --
6. I've said this many times before........ANYTIME we change something on a Camaro or a Corvette -- 50% will love it -- 50% will hate it - and 80% of the 50% who hate it will love it or like it 90 days after the car comes out........and I suspect this will happen as well on the Camaro.
7. The 2nd Gen Fcars were highly controversial -- so were the 4th gens -- the C5? People loved it or hated it -- much more negative comments than on the new Camaro. C6? you would have thought the world was coming to an end the way some people caterwalled..........
*pops top off advil bottle*
*swallows contents of bottle*
*washes it down with a liter of Vodka*
They had to bring in a clean up crew after the puddle of drool I left around the C6. Not nearly as much as in Detroit in 06 though..
Frankly -- the response to this car far exceeds our expectations when looking at the many sites out there. Sorry that a few of you don't like what you see. I'm hoping that you'll change your mind when you see it in person.
In the final analysis -- most people on this site feel very strongly about Camaro -- I just ask you to hold off 'til you can sit in a production car -- then make final judgement.
In the final analysis -- most people on this site feel very strongly about Camaro -- I just ask you to hold off 'til you can sit in a production car -- then make final judgement.
and if it doesnt, it should...
01-05-2008, 01:45 PM
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Member RAMPANT was kind enough to clean up the interior with a photoshop pic of it. He did take some liberties with the center stack (and added a manual shift!!!) but are y'all REALLY that opposed to this? I think it looks killer.
01-05-2008, 01:52 PM
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That's EXACTLY what was in my mind!!!!!!
I only wish I had the computer and artistic skills to do that 
If the final product anywhere similar to this, those who scoff at GM and don't trust Scott shall eat a nice slice of humble pie!
01-05-2008, 01:54 PM
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It looks better. Still not my cup of tea but he did a fairly good job with the photoshop. I guess we'll have to wait till the official GM pic is released of the interior.
01-05-2008, 02:24 PM
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The darkening of the pics does help, fixing the seats improves the overall look (obviously) and the center is WAY better (except for the large protruding *****).
Can you do something with the steering wheel in those photochops?
Bob
PS....I actually like the gauges in front of the shifter.
Can you do something with the steering wheel in those photochops?
Bob
PS....I actually like the gauges in front of the shifter.
01-05-2008, 02:53 PM
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01-05-2008, 02:55 PM
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I respectfully disagree. The interior of the concept fit PERFECTLY with the concept's exterior. That was one reason the concept drew raves, and got awards. Its entire design (inside and out) were harmonious, and were successful as a modern vision with heritage design elements. IF the production interior is akin to that, it will also be in harmony with what we now know is the production exterior styling. There will always be some buyers who absolutely do not want such an interior... but that hasn't stopped hundreds of thousands of 05+ Mustang buyers from signing the papers....
01-05-2008, 03:37 PM
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Agreed. I've had several of my cars to a local drag strip. There's no time to sit there, gazing at your voltmeter! If something's wrong with oil pressure, the car's seriously messed up anyway and in need of major repair (and a light will be on somewhere on the dash). This is not 1964! People simply do not monitor oil pressure, volts, not even temps constantly like they used to. It's "nice" to have such gages... but not something people stare at while driving in a spirited fashion. Road, speed, and tach are the big eye magnets... but even speed and tach are not stared at a lot by a good race driver, shifting is often done more by sound and feel than by watching a tach.
And for the record, I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS monitor what is going on with the vital fluids of my car and truck. Whether I'm just running to the store or I'm towing the car to some race 800 miles distant.
Obviously I do not stare at the car's gauges during an autocross run but for sure right after on the way back to grid (if the adrenaline doesn't have me twitching too bad
) and DEFINITELY if I were on track.Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about..... on a track designed for those speeds... i.e. a road course. Obviously you're not aware that a surprising number of people actually track their cars and they (we) need to be able to monitor the fluids during a 20 minute lapping session.
01-05-2008, 03:46 PM
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Who said anything about the dragstrip?
And for the record, I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS monitor what is going on with the vital fluids of my car and truck. Whether I'm just running to the store or I'm towing the car to some race 800 miles distant.
Obviously I do not stare at the car's gauges during an autocross run but for sure right after on the way back to grid (if the adrenaline doesn't have me twitching too bad) and DEFINITELY if I were on track.
Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about..... on a track designed for those speeds... i.e. a road course. Obviously you're not aware that a surprising number of people actually track their cars and they (we) need to be able to monitor the fluids during a 20 minute lapping session.
And for the record, I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS monitor what is going on with the vital fluids of my car and truck. Whether I'm just running to the store or I'm towing the car to some race 800 miles distant.
Obviously I do not stare at the car's gauges during an autocross run but for sure right after on the way back to grid (if the adrenaline doesn't have me twitching too bad
) and DEFINITELY if I were on track.Yes, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about..... on a track designed for those speeds... i.e. a road course. Obviously you're not aware that a surprising number of people actually track their cars and they (we) need to be able to monitor the fluids during a 20 minute lapping session.