CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
If contract negotiations aren't reached by September 20th.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...c&refer=canada
GM, Ford, Chrysler's Canadian Workers Vote to Authorize Strike
Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG employees represented by the Canadian Auto Workers voted to allow a strike in the event a contract isn't reached by Sept. 20 in talks that may set the tone for U.S. negotiations in 2007.
The vote was 97.1 percent at General Motors in favor of authorizing union officials to call a strike, 95.5 percent at Ford and 97.9 percent at DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler unit, the Toronto-based CAW said in a statement yesterday. The CAW represents about 41,800 employees at the three companies.
This year's Canadian talks, which began last month, may be a barometer for contracts to be negotiated by the three U.S. automakers with workers in two years. Detroit-based General Motors, Ford and Chrysler want to hold down cost increases in their Canadian operations and General Motors is trying to cut spending in the U.S., particularly in health care.
``It is absolute common sense if the Canadian labor leaders to get a common position with their U.S. counterparts first and vice versa before they negotiate with the companies because if not, the companies will try to play off one side against another between the countries,'' said Peter Schmidt, managing director at Automotive Industry Data, a consulting company in Warwick, England.
General Motors is seeking health-care concessions from U.S. workers represented by the United Auto Workers. That effort faces delays after UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said Aug. 26 the union hasn't finished a study of the company's finances.
UAW Questions Cuts
Gettelfinger said last month that GM had failed to convince the union that its challenges are steep enough to warrant health- care givebacks. GM contends that health expenses for employees, retirees and dependents make the company uncompetitive against Toyota Motor Corp. and other carmakers by adding more than $1,500 to the cost of each U.S. vehicle sold.
The Canadian Auto Workers next week will select a strike target among GM, Ford and Chrysler. The CAW will concentrate on reaching an agreement with that company as a blueprint for the other two.
The strike vote ``really is support for the bargaining committees to continue,'' CAW spokesman Jim Pare said in an interview yesterday. ``These meetings also give us a chance to update the membership'' on negotiations.
Strike Target
In previous talks in Canada, automakers have sought to be designated as the target company, saying it gave them the best chance to shape a new contract. CAW President Buzz Hargrove said last month at a union convention in Toronto that none of the companies is seeking to be the target.
The strike ballot shows ``that our members understand the importance of backing their bargaining committees as we head into what will be a tough round of bargaining with General Motors, Ford and DaimlerChrysler,'' Hargrove said in yesterday's statement.
The German shares of General Motors were down 1.2 percent at $33.73 as of 10:39 a.m. in Frankfurt. Ford's German stock fell 0.4 percent at $9.73. Shares of Stuttgart, Germany-based DaimlerChrysler were down 7 euro cents, or 0.2 percent, at 41.87 after falling as much as 1.7 percent to 41.25 euros.
Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Corp., Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler AG employees represented by the Canadian Auto Workers voted to allow a strike in the event a contract isn't reached by Sept. 20 in talks that may set the tone for U.S. negotiations in 2007.
The vote was 97.1 percent at General Motors in favor of authorizing union officials to call a strike, 95.5 percent at Ford and 97.9 percent at DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler unit, the Toronto-based CAW said in a statement yesterday. The CAW represents about 41,800 employees at the three companies.
This year's Canadian talks, which began last month, may be a barometer for contracts to be negotiated by the three U.S. automakers with workers in two years. Detroit-based General Motors, Ford and Chrysler want to hold down cost increases in their Canadian operations and General Motors is trying to cut spending in the U.S., particularly in health care.
``It is absolute common sense if the Canadian labor leaders to get a common position with their U.S. counterparts first and vice versa before they negotiate with the companies because if not, the companies will try to play off one side against another between the countries,'' said Peter Schmidt, managing director at Automotive Industry Data, a consulting company in Warwick, England.
General Motors is seeking health-care concessions from U.S. workers represented by the United Auto Workers. That effort faces delays after UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said Aug. 26 the union hasn't finished a study of the company's finances.
UAW Questions Cuts
Gettelfinger said last month that GM had failed to convince the union that its challenges are steep enough to warrant health- care givebacks. GM contends that health expenses for employees, retirees and dependents make the company uncompetitive against Toyota Motor Corp. and other carmakers by adding more than $1,500 to the cost of each U.S. vehicle sold.
The Canadian Auto Workers next week will select a strike target among GM, Ford and Chrysler. The CAW will concentrate on reaching an agreement with that company as a blueprint for the other two.
The strike vote ``really is support for the bargaining committees to continue,'' CAW spokesman Jim Pare said in an interview yesterday. ``These meetings also give us a chance to update the membership'' on negotiations.
Strike Target
In previous talks in Canada, automakers have sought to be designated as the target company, saying it gave them the best chance to shape a new contract. CAW President Buzz Hargrove said last month at a union convention in Toronto that none of the companies is seeking to be the target.
The strike ballot shows ``that our members understand the importance of backing their bargaining committees as we head into what will be a tough round of bargaining with General Motors, Ford and DaimlerChrysler,'' Hargrove said in yesterday's statement.
The German shares of General Motors were down 1.2 percent at $33.73 as of 10:39 a.m. in Frankfurt. Ford's German stock fell 0.4 percent at $9.73. Shares of Stuttgart, Germany-based DaimlerChrysler were down 7 euro cents, or 0.2 percent, at 41.87 after falling as much as 1.7 percent to 41.25 euros.
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
I'm not really an "anti-union" person, but at some point, a union needs to understand that for the good of ALL, sometimes, you have to expect a little less in your corner when things are down.
I am almost hoping that the NHL's owner lockout sets a presidence for some of these kinds of things, even outside of the sports world...
The NHL will be SO MUCH better off for all now... it was worth the sacrifice of last season.
I am almost hoping that the NHL's owner lockout sets a presidence for some of these kinds of things, even outside of the sports world...
The NHL will be SO MUCH better off for all now... it was worth the sacrifice of last season.
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I just hope the UAW and CAW themselves don't spell the end of the Domestic Manufactuers. You'd think they're in enough hot water the way it is; so let's strike and increase the possibility that they will lose their jobs. Makes no sense to me.
If a company is making MILLIONS+ and paying the workers "Slave Wages" then a Strike is justified. If a Company is losing BILLIONS+ and the workers are making above the Median US pay - spells "DISASTER".
But tell them that. I may be forced into buying a Toyota in the future.
If a company is making MILLIONS+ and paying the workers "Slave Wages" then a Strike is justified. If a Company is losing BILLIONS+ and the workers are making above the Median US pay - spells "DISASTER".
But tell them that. I may be forced into buying a Toyota in the future.
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
I'm wondering if a CAW strike could somehow delay an announcement of some kind from GM regarding the Camaro.
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Imagine if you are in the UAW or CAW. Would you be willing to take a pay cut when the company told you that it could afford to pay you $XX,XXX in wages and benifits? Hell no. I hate it when managment blames the unions for all their problems. It has been boneheaded moves by mangament at the big 3 for the past 30 years that have gotten them to this current point. The union has nothing to do with GM's problems. It was managment's fault for ever signing that stupid(from the company's point of view) contract they currently have with the union. You want to know who gave the union the rope to hang GM? Management.
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Originally Posted by AronZ28
Imagine if you are in the UAW or CAW. Would you be willing to take a pay cut when the company told you that it could afford to pay you $XX,XXX in wages and benifits? Hell no. I hate it when managment blames the unions for all their problems. It has been boneheaded moves by mangament at the big 3 for the past 30 years that have gotten them to this current point. The union has nothing to do with GM's problems. It was managment's fault for ever signing that stupid(from the company's point of view) contract they currently have with the union. You want to know who gave the union the rope to hang GM? Management.
I agree with this as well... GM signed the contracts (as did Ford and DCX)... but the point is, they played out the contracts, and now is a chance to re-do them in a setup that better fits the companies position and the economy of today.
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Northwest proved that there are ways to stay running if a union wants to take you down............................
No diffrence between this and the union that told Northwest that "They would rather the company go bankrupt then give any concessions."
No diffrence between this and the union that told Northwest that "They would rather the company go bankrupt then give any concessions."
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
I hate it when unions are so self absorbed that they'd rather send a company down in a flame of bankruptcy than renegotiate their contract. It really helps out your union members when you put them out of work because the company they worked for no longer exists.
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
I hate it when unions are so self absorbed that they'd rather send a company down in a flame of bankruptcy than renegotiate their contract. It really helps out your union members when you put them out of work because the company they worked for no longer exists.
"Gimme, gimme, gimme..." until everything is gone... then complain that there are no jobs.
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Originally Posted by AronZ28
Imagine if you are in the UAW or CAW. Would you be willing to take a pay cut when the company told you that it could afford to pay you $XX,XXX in wages and benifits? Hell no. I hate it when managment blames the unions for all their problems. It has been boneheaded moves by mangament at the big 3 for the past 30 years that have gotten them to this current point. The union has nothing to do with GM's problems. It was managment's fault for ever signing that stupid(from the company's point of view) contract they currently have with the union. You want to know who gave the union the rope to hang GM? Management.
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strike = bankrupsy, UAW doesnt want that...
a resturcturing bankrupsy would probably be the best thing for GM right now... although, if a new customer was looking to buy a car and they saw the company was doing a bankrupsy, would they feel like the car was made with quality?
what perception would that leave the customer with?
a resturcturing bankrupsy would probably be the best thing for GM right now... although, if a new customer was looking to buy a car and they saw the company was doing a bankrupsy, would they feel like the car was made with quality?
what perception would that leave the customer with?
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Originally Posted by NewbieWar
strike = bankrupsy, UAW doesnt want that...
a resturcturing bankrupsy would probably be the best thing for GM right now... although, if a new customer was looking to buy a car and they saw the company was doing a bankrupsy, would they feel like the car was made with quality?
what perception would that leave the customer with?
a resturcturing bankrupsy would probably be the best thing for GM right now... although, if a new customer was looking to buy a car and they saw the company was doing a bankrupsy, would they feel like the car was made with quality?
what perception would that leave the customer with?
Re: CAW Workers Vote to Authorize Strike...
Originally Posted by falchulk
Things dont need to go that far if the unions act as employees and not contractors. It bugs the hell out of me that they claim they are GM employees but they have no loyalty.
as far as I know this doesnt really effect much of the financials of the company... hell the rating is already junk, so thats not gonna go in the toliot


