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04-03-2004, 05:16 PM
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Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
Hey guys, with the pics and comparison talks of the Hooker Long Tubes vs the Pace Setter Long Tubes, I thought you might get some use out of some pics
In these pics, the Hookers have the collector flange. The Pace Setters are slip fit.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace01.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace02.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace03.jpg
Close-up of Hooker
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace04.jpg
Close-up of Pace Setter
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace05.jpg
First pic is the Pace Setter. Second is the Hooker. Pace Setter gives a larger dimple than Hooker does so there is room for a wrench. This cuts down a little on flow but makes install much easier.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace06.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace07.jpg
First pic is Pace Setter. Second is Hooker.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace08.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace09.jpg
Collector area welds. First is Hooker. Second is Pace Setter.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace10.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace11.jpg
Shots showing dimpling of Pace Setter vs Hooker. First is Hooker, second is Pace Setter.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace12.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace13.jpg
Top one is Pace Setter. Bottom is Hooker.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace14.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace15.jpg
Top one is Hooker. Bottom is Pace Setter.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace16.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace17.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace18.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace19.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace20.jpg
First pic is Pace Setter. Second is Hooker.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace21.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace24.jpg
Pace Setter flanges.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace22.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace23.jpg
Hookers on the bottom. Pace Setters on the top.
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace25.jpg
Look at the difference in the flanges.  Pace Setter has a MUCH thicker flange!
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace26.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace27.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace28.jpg
http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/misc/hooker_pace29.jpg
Well, there you go. Some side by side comparison shots for those looking to buy a set of long tubes and thinking about either of these.
The coating on the Hookers is done by Paul Barry. That coating is proven and I know works and stays looking good. Paul does an excellent job. The coating on the Pace Setters look good but I have no data on those as to how long it lasts, does it discolor, etc.
Also, there is a decent weight difference. The Hooker long tubes weigh in at 24 lbs. The Pace Setters are 30 lbs. Not all of that can be in the heavier duty flanges and also some of the Pace Setter tubes are considerably shorter than the counterpart Hookers. Sooo, Pace Setter must be using some better/thicker metal for their tubing as well since they are so much heavier and there is less "footage" of tubing.
Last edited by Brent94Z; 04-03-2004 at 05:19 PM.
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04-03-2004, 05:39 PM
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As always, good job Brent! 
Great pictures for making the right decision.
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04-03-2004, 07:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by madwolf
As always, good job Brent! 
Great pictures for making the right decision.
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Thanks, madwolf!
I've been seeing a lot of questions about these Pace Setters lately and since I had a set in my garage, I thought these comparison pics might be useful for somebody
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04-03-2004, 07:34 PM
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the real question Brent is which set do you want to sell??
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04-03-2004, 07:36 PM
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Great job Brent!!
Those Pacesetters look great!!!
Right on par with the Hookers, or better. The only negative is the slip fit collector, but that can be fixed easily, and the weight.
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04-03-2004, 11:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by 94droptopz
the real question Brent is which set do you want to sell??
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 The Pace Setters are for a friend of mine. The Hookers are an extra set I have... might stick them on the convertible? Not sure though so who knows, I might end up selling them later down the road
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09-20-2004, 08:39 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
Man, I wish they would have put that much thought into the shorties. Cuz mine were done with some real crappy quality. Cant get bolts in or out to save your life, and the welds look like a 2 year old did them.
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09-20-2004, 09:32 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
Well I wonder what the difference is between those 2 and the Jet Hot long tubes? What about price differences?
-B
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09-20-2004, 10:10 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
MY GOD!
how on earth do you get to those bolts and plugs!!!
i'm glad i have an LS1....i can check torque on all bolts with one wrench, and do all the plugs in 30min!!
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09-20-2004, 10:44 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
Thanks for the comparison, I purchased the PS's Friday  ..
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09-20-2004, 10:50 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
I just installed the pacesetter mids on my car over the weekend. Those dimples for the header bolts would have made the job 10x easier! Among other things.....
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09-20-2004, 11:23 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
Thanks Brent. Awesome comparison! I think Im gonna give the Pacesetters a try. Cant beat the price, especially with the gp going on and all.
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09-20-2004, 11:32 PM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
I was gonna get the Pace Setters from ebay but was afraid they weren't very good quality but DAMN they look nice. Great job with the pics, thanks.
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09-21-2004, 02:38 AM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
I bought some of the pacesetter LT's I didn't get the Chrome Coating, but I know that black coating burned off in about 2 days of driving
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09-21-2004, 02:50 AM
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Re: Hooker vs Pace Setter long tubes - pics inside...
OFF TOPIC: But the black paint is only shipping paint so they don't get scratched, its supposed to burn off fast.
Great pics by the way. Keep up the good work
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