Disappointing Times

Joshs99BlackBeauty · 07-27-2002, 09:39 PM

Just got a time...

it was kinda disappointing. I expected 15.5 - 15.7 but i was hurt when I saw 16.293 @ 81.53 on the timeslip. I had a .171 r/t too! Oh well, better luck next time.

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nikkev · 07-27-2002, 10:01 PM

Hang in there

The times are sucking right now due to weather and humidity.Learn how to launch better and go back in cooler and drier weather.Then you can expect a .5 sec drop.Good luck.
Kevin

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bluecmaro96 · 07-27-2002, 11:09 PM

what was your 60ft time? this could be a traction problem

mm2harrell · 07-27-2002, 11:15 PM

first of all, don't expect to be too quick on your first couple of passes. try some better launching techniques. soon you'll get it. second of all the mods you've made won't give you that much of a torque gain to really notice anyway.

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Joshs99BlackBeauty · 07-27-2002, 11:16 PM

60 ft time was 2.395...but my tires didnt spin or anything. There was a 2000 v6 in the lane next to me...he was stock and he ran 16.3 and 16.5. He said he didnt spin either

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Joshs99BlackBeauty · 07-27-2002, 11:23 PM

Yea maybe with time ill get better...i think .171 r/t was pretty good for 1st time. What other mods can I do to bring my time down. I see most 3800s running somewhere around 15.0 - 15.7. Thats where I want to be. Could it be the humidity and the weather? It was like 85 degrees.
How much would SLP Ram Air Induction and 160 degree thermostat bring me down? With the thermostat dont I need a manual fan switch? I saw someone get the 160 thermostat and run 15.9 then put in the manual fan switch and bring it down to 15.0 How does the fan switch work? Thanks

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mm2harrell · 07-29-2002, 01:12 AM

trust on these two things

1) you will get better with time
2) with the mods you have, you won't see a big change in et.

you have goods mods, but it seems like you just went with word of mouth from some other guys or you went and got what everybody says is that best. if you're really serious about dropping seconds off your et, you need to sit down and think about it. you need to choose mods that will improve torque if you want a better quarter mile time. not only that but you need to make a few runs to get a good feel for where in the rpm band your car spends most of it's time. then choose mods that will increase torque in that band. no matter what people tell you, a manual fan switch and a thermostat will not drop 1.3 seconds off your time. think about it, if a 100 horse nitrous system will drop 2 seconds off your time, how is a fan and a thermostat gonna drop 1.3 seconds? you want fast times? get yourself a big intake system, a dual exhaust, some headers, and a nitrous system or supercharger. for added speed, port your heads and intake. mark my words, you're not gonna be as fast as you think messing around with useless things like manual fan switches.

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Joshs99BlackBeauty · 07-29-2002, 01:07 PM

What does it mean to port your heads and intake/exhaust? Thanks

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mm2harrell · 07-29-2002, 10:02 PM

it means that someone takes a little p-grinder and grinds away some of the rough turns and surface in your heads. this will give a smoother path for air to flow. porting the intake is about the same thing and it opens it up a little more. more air means more power.

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shortdog273 · 07-29-2002, 10:34 PM

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How much would SLP Ram Air Induction and 160 degree thermostat bring me down?
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I ran an average of 15.3 without the ram air kit, but I did have the free ram air. I went ahead and spent a $130 on the whisper ram air and took it to the track the following week. I ran an average of 15.0. Even though I have a 160* stat, it does nothing performance wise. It just opens up earlier. A manual fan switch WILL help, thus keeping your car cool in staging.

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MustangEater82 · 07-30-2002, 01:44 AM

I would be more worreid about your mph, even with a bad 60' you should have a better mph, I aver5age about 4 mph faster then yours.

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edoan · 07-30-2002, 01:50 AM

Ah, I can answer this one for you: forget whatever mods anyone else said ... it's all about your rear axle. Your 60' times indicate that you've probably got an auto tranny with 3.08 gears & an open diff. All you need is a rear axle swap w/ an M6 car or you can install your own LSD w/ 3.42 gears. That will drop your 60' times by at least 0.3 sec & your 1/4 mile time by .6 seconds or more. 3.08 gears are the worst ... I can't even believe GM installed them.

At any rate, it's unlikely that you've got the Y87 performance package which includes the better gears & LSD. That would explain your times.

mm2harrell · 07-30-2002, 03:00 AM

forget the other mods....riiiiight. i run low 13's. this guy's still talking about 15's.

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Joshs99BlackBeauty · 07-30-2002, 08:56 PM

3.08 gears with open differential is exactlly what I have. How hard is it to change the gears? Should I buy the whole kit from SLP for...i think its 300 or 400, or would i just need to get the gears themself for 200?

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Joshs99BlackBeauty · 07-30-2002, 08:58 PM

My dad has 2.73 gears in his z28 and he runs 13.9 STOCK.....If i do change my gears from 3.08 should i go ahead and get 3.73? how much of a difference would that make?

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