Chevycobb 07-25-2008, 10:26 PM will the preferred method of removal still be out the bottom like the 4th gens?
is it bad that I am tempted to start piecing together an lsx without knowing if I can get this car? :D
Jason Dove 07-26-2008, 12:37 AM Based on this image, I think it'll easily come out the top.
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/07/x10ar_ch009-1280.jpg
BTW: My 4th gen motor easily came out the top, not sure why you're suggesting the 'best' way was to drop it.
Chevycobb 07-26-2008, 07:09 AM BTW: My 4th gen motor easily came out the top, not sure why you're suggesting the 'best' way was to drop it.
because thats what chevrolet suggested IIRC.
...and from personal experience:D
Whitten 07-29-2008, 04:14 PM because thats what chevrolet suggested IIRC.
...and from personal experience:D
And because I have seen the guys at GMMG go from car on the ground in running trim to having the entire trans,motor, and K member out in less than 20 minutes...
Seriously they used to race each other in the shop. I can't be sure but I think Mike told me they were able to get one out in 12 minutes start to finish one time but that was with two guys working on it.
petty 08-14-2008, 01:33 AM Yes, it is. I was even planning to remove my car's engine. Got the rod knocking all the time and need a new piston, I thought. I'll try to refer to this one upon removing it, ehow.com/how_2098675_remove-cars-engine.html.
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DAKMOR 08-14-2008, 07:09 AM Doesn't it look like you could put t-tops on that vehicle?
JeremyNYR 08-14-2008, 09:17 AM Doesn't it look like you could put t-tops on that vehicle?
Not really. It does look like non-removable glass panels can be put in, which would be pretty cool. As far as actual t-tops, I wouldn't be cutting out the roof supports just above the windows without a roll bar with welded in door bars. They look pretty damn structural to me.
SCNGENNFTHGEN 12-15-2008, 06:10 AM Looks like a fine work of art to me. I wouldn't want to cut it up for T-tops either. Glass tops wouldn't be a bad sacrifice IMO. It does look like the engine should come right out the top.
2010_5thgen 02-09-2009, 02:48 PM It's spelled C-A-M-A-R-O!!!!!!
Chevycobb 02-09-2009, 03:23 PM explain what you mean by "checking out" the cAmaro? you just saw it at a car show or something? just how many 2010 camaros have you worked on?
2010_5thgen 02-09-2009, 03:30 PM from what ive seen in the gmpp videos of the sema cars, theres not too much involved in removing the engine from the bottom.
Chevycobb 02-09-2009, 05:07 PM from what ive seen in the gmpp videos of the sema cars, theres not too much involved in removing the engine from the bottom.
looks very similar to the way a 4th gen's is removed, and that can be done in a day by a lot of people with just basic tools.
2010_5thgen 02-10-2009, 08:07 AM how high would the body have to be lifter to get the front suspension and motor to come out? you have to have some pretty serious jack's and stands to do this at home.
Chevycobb 02-10-2009, 10:40 AM how high would the body have to be lifter to get the front suspension and motor to come out? you have to have some pretty serious jack's and stands to do this at home.
what most people do, myself included, is to use either stacked 2x4's or concrete blocks with the jack stands on top of those to hold the car up. getting the front of the car up is done with the cherry picker/engine hoist with some chains or strong straps.
I got a bunch of pics of the process of when I did it at home. it was messy, but I have done it by myself in a day.
2010_5thgen 02-10-2009, 10:53 AM too much work for me. id rather pay someone to pull the motor out for me. im not very mechanically inclined when it comes to huge projects like that. plus i have a disorder where i cant start a project and leave it unfinished. i would have to spend the entire time working on it without any sleep. i cant stand having unfinished projects.
super83Z 02-10-2009, 11:12 AM DATE: 02-09-09
FROM: SHAWN DEMOSTHENIS
Comaro Engine
I just checked out the new Comaro. Here's what I've noticed. Almost
every forum out there there's must be so many young dudes that's never
taken apart and engine and then there's some that have.
Why would General Motors make the new motor so complicated??? It's incased
in aluminum and stainless steel??? They've made it tiresome to work on?
Why would they do this? It's not a Ferrari...
It's a New Comaro that will compete with the 05-11 Mustangs.
Granted the 2005-2011 Mustangs are easy to work on, why not make the Comaro the same way???
I believe if General Motors doesn't get a handle on the accessability of the mechanical components they will eventually run off buyers down the road.
Ford made there Mustangs easy as cake to upgrade and replace mileage parts...
Watch and learn boys. Look at the screws encasing the engine in the photos.
It's :bs:
This isn't Star Trek. It's the good ol' "U. S. of A.":usa:
Peace out Comaro lovers and good luck.:metal:
We are all dumber for having read this.
jay_lt4 02-10-2009, 01:20 PM out the top for mine, i have a QTP lift plate that should work nice, also i am going to be removing the trans first because to change the converter on the new 6 speed auto trans you have the have the trans in a fixture and facing straight up because the converter shaft seal in located inside the converter and if you leave the trans sitting horizontal you can wreck the seal, the converter needs to be pulled straight up with some special t-handles that screw into the converter bolt holes
Chevycobb 02-10-2009, 06:49 PM too much work for me. id rather pay someone to pull the motor out for me. im not very mechanically inclined when it comes to huge projects like that. plus i have a disorder where i cant start a project and leave it unfinished. i would have to spend the entire time working on it without any sleep. i cant stand having unfinished projects.
eh, its not that bad. I had NEVER done anything like that before I did mine. Never done an engine build or even a removal before. the key is to do what jay is doing and have one ready to go for a shorter turn around time.
out the top for mine, i have a QTP lift plate that should work nice, also i am going to be removing the trans first because to change the converter on the new 6 speed auto trans you have the have the trans in a fixture and facing straight up because the converter shaft seal in located inside the converter and if you leave the trans sitting horizontal you can wreck the seal, the converter needs to be pulled straight up with some special t-handles that screw into the converter bolt holes
thats some good info to know. I haven't owned an automatic in a long time, and never worked on one either. If I ever get a chance to buy a 5th gen, I will still have a hard time deciding to get a manual or auto.
sn8ke eatr 02-12-2009, 10:42 AM how high would the body have to be lifter to get the front suspension and motor to come out? you have to have some pretty serious jack's and stands to do this at home.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa21/sn8keatr/december07-october08040.jpg
that high.
had about 1/2 inch room between the back/top of the intake and the bottom of the rad support. did it when i was 17 with a 200 dollar set of craftsman tools and jackstands and 2 jacks, 1 borrowed.
its definitely easier this way if your dropping the tranny too, next time i will probably just tear the motor down to a shortblock still in the car then yank that out through the top. theres pro's and cons to doing it like this, a major con, for me anyway is you cant move(roll) the car around with no k memeber :no:
2010_5thgen 02-12-2009, 11:55 AM wow. yeah . too much work.
MetalDragon 02-12-2009, 05:47 PM http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa21/sn8keatr/december07-october08040.jpg
that high.
had about 1/2 inch room between the back/top of the intake and the bottom of the rad support. did it when i was 17 with a 200 dollar set of craftsman tools and jackstands and 2 jacks, 1 borrowed.
its definitely easier this way if your dropping the tranny too, next time i will probably just tear the motor down to a shortblock still in the car then yank that out through the top. theres pro's and cons to doing it like this, a major con, for me anyway is you cant move(roll) the car around with no k memeber :no:
Wow.....that looks.....safe.
sn8ke eatr 02-13-2009, 01:29 AM safe enough ;)
hopefully the osha folks from my job dont come visit me at home lol only now after reading that post i realize how actually unsafe that is :lol:
Chevycobb 02-13-2009, 07:57 AM as long as the supports under the stands are good, you should be fine. I had my rear wheels sitting on my old salad shooters and tires, so the pivot wasn't as bad. one of these days ill remember to post pics.
ex-SS-ve 02-15-2009, 03:02 AM DATE: 02-09-09
FROM: SHAWN DEMOSTHENIS
Comaro Engine
I just checked out the new Comaro. Here's what I've noticed. Almost
every forum out there there's must be so many young dudes that's never
taken apart and engine and then there's some that have.
Why would General Motors make the new motor so complicated??? It's incased
in aluminum and stainless steel??? They've made it tiresome to work on?
Why would they do this? It's not a Ferrari...
It's a New Comaro that will compete with the 05-11 Mustangs.
Granted the 2005-2011 Mustangs are easy to work on, why not make the Comaro the same way???
I believe if General Motors doesn't get a handle on the accessability of the mechanical components they will eventually run off buyers down the road.
Ford made there Mustangs easy as cake to upgrade and replace mileage parts...
Watch and learn boys. Look at the screws encasing the engine in the photos.
It's :bs:
This isn't Star Trek. It's the good ol' "U. S. of A.":usa:
Peace out Comaro lovers and good luck.:metal:the dumbest post ive seen today! you busy playing with die cast cars and plastic models to make that judgement?
King Moose SS 02-16-2009, 04:37 PM I'm wondering, you know those new safety standards on car for frontal impact. Doesn't it require the engine to drop after impact.
94Camaro_Z_28 02-16-2009, 10:14 PM I picked the front of my car up with a cherry picker and lifted it off the motor, then set it onto stands :shrug:
SP DEMOSTHENIS 02-17-2009, 02:08 PM Don't get all teary eyed guys.
I'm just a ford guy seeing if i could piss off chevy guys. It's
obviously a touchy subject.
I do however have one question for you camaro lovers out there:
Why would anyone be so excited about tearing an engine out of a
car that hasn't even hit the sales lot yet?
Is the camaro not strong enough to stand on it's own that you
have to remove the engine?
I thought camaro's could hold their own? Are you all worried
about trying to fix it already? ;)
SP DEMOSTHENIS 02-17-2009, 02:14 PM Late model mustang gt's to have 6.2l 400+hp v8's.
There aren't any forums about tearing out mustang motors...
I wonder why?
Who will sponsor camaro? Roush?
Shelby could help maybe.
King Moose SS 02-17-2009, 02:25 PM I think saleen commited to make a custom camaro
Chevycobb 02-17-2009, 06:36 PM Don't get all teary eyed guys.
I'm just a ford guy seeing if i could piss off chevy guys. It's
obviously a touchy subject.
I do however have one question for you camaro lovers out there:
Why would anyone be so excited about tearing an engine out of a
car that hasn't even hit the sales lot yet?
Some people want more than 426hp? :shrug: not really that touchy of a subject
Is the camaro not strong enough to stand on it's own that you
have to remove the engine?
like I said, some people just want more power....whats wrong with that?
I thought camaro's could hold their own? Are you all worried
about trying to fix it already? ;)
just a trolling comment....
Late model mustang gt's to have 6.2l 400+hp v8's.
There aren't any forums about tearing out mustang motors...
I wonder why?
I guess no mustang owner has ever or will ever pull their motor out? :confused:
there aren't really a whole lot pertaining to the 5th gen camaro, I was just curious. I can think of this one and one other off the top of my head. maybe someone wants to build one with a lower CR that can handle a lot of boost. :shrug:
Who will sponsor camaro? Roush?
Shelby could help maybe.
there are quite a few tuners/builders who are already developing their cars.
OPies57 02-24-2009, 08:18 PM what is a ford guy even doing on this site? are you maybe looking to jump ship to a fast car? how exactly does one become a ford guy? seriously cause you've been losing to chevys for the longest time. we also dont need to run turbos or blowers to be considered "fast" and show me one mod motor with 500whp all motor. i guarantee you can't i could honestly write forever on how silly fords are. oh yea have you seen the new 370z? it has more horsepower then your pustang and 2 less cylinders.
**** off.
MetalDragon 02-24-2009, 09:16 PM I think I was just teleported back to sixth grade....
OPies57 02-24-2009, 10:56 PM yea people were saying that back in the sixth grade?
guionM 02-26-2009, 10:23 PM will the preferred method of removal still be out the bottom like the 4th gens?
is it bad that I am tempted to start piecing together an lsx without knowing if I can get this car? :D
You obviously aren't concerned about things such waranties.
Chevycobb 02-26-2009, 10:32 PM warranty shwarranty
not like they are useful or anything :p
Capn Pete 02-27-2009, 12:37 AM I've re & re'd the whole K-member/engine assembly from a 4th-gen TWICE - once was my '02 (LS1), the other was for my race car (LT1). It's not what I'd call "easy" (there are some tricky moments) but it's not THAT bad :shrug:. I also re & re'd an LT1 from the top, and it was NOT pretty, I tell ya that :rolleyes:. I truly think it's easier from the bottom for the 4th-gen.
However, having looked at the 5th-gen, I'm pretty confident it'll be a pretty quick re & re from the top :yes:. Heck, the spark plugs are actually VISIBLE at a quick glance, and even look to be easily ACCESSIBLE!!! :D (big improvement from the 4th-gen). Dropping out the bottom would be a waste of time/energy IMO :shrug:. Looks like it should be "back to the good 'ol days" of yanking engines like the first three generations of F-Body :thumb:.
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