A few questions about CAI....

Well first of all, I have a WS6.. And I was on thunderracing.com looking at the SLP kit; but it said "not recommended for SS and WS6 applications". Why?? I have already done the free ram air mod so should I even buy the kit? Let me know something guys. Thanks in advance

Induction mods are in the sig:

i dont know what a cai is... but im geussing that the reason its not recommend for ss or ws6 is because it interfers with ram air system

Originally posted by stik6shift98
i dont know what a cai is... but im geussing that the reason its not recommend for ss or ws6 is because it interfers with ram air system

CAI is cold air induction. And I really don't see a reason why it would interfere with my hood--it bolts on underneath the lid.

i dunno.....but thats definetly the reason the said not to use it because of ram air.......how does it go under your ws6 air.....

got a link with pics:)


ill try to help as much as i can:D

Here's the link:

http://www.thunderracing.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=subcategory&subcategoryid=1023

As far as I can tell, this part has nothing to do with what the hood does! BUT, I think WS6 cars have taller air lids or something like that... Anyways, on the link, scroll down to the SLP cold air kit.

ok i think because ws6 and ss air boxes are open...so all that air would be comin right out the top from your ws6 ram air.....get it

Am I just dumb, or is there no point in this? The WS6 already has CAI... (of course they call it ram air, but cai is the proper term for it)

You've already got cold air flowing at a high rate through your nostrils, so you already have this mod on your car stock. There's no point in adding any aftermarket CAI/"ram air" kit, or doing the free ram air mod as far as I see.

u cant do both......
i wouldnt do it on ws6.......on ss yes

because ss ram air sucks

and that it gives ss like 10 or 15 more hp is big :bs:

thats why stock ws6 beats ss all day long

Originally posted by stik6shift98
u cant do both......
i wouldnt do it on ws6.......on ss yes

because ss ram air sucks

and that it gives ss like 10 or 15 more hp is big :bs:

thats why stock ws6 beats ss all day long

Yeah, don't do it on the WS6, it'll add about as much horsepower as a Type-R sticker ;)

lmao.........:D

All I know is I did the free ram air mod and DID feel a difference. You guys are making it sound like air can only come from one source?! I have it coming from the hood AND below the lid. And I'm thinking that the cold air kit will smooth the air coming in below the lid, making it less turbulent. But maybe I'm crazy.:confused:

ok frst off u dint see a differnce...u r mod happy....

when i frst got my car and added whisper ram air i thought for sure had 200 horses added from it....

u can try but i would never ever do it......buy something else

I guess since I didn't see a difference, then everyone that's done the mod didn't see a difference. Weird.

ok u cant tell a tiny hp addition like that.....

there prob is gain but u cant tell......


u cant get inot a car and say it has free ram air by driving it

u can get in car and say its got cam....


get what im sayin......unless u went to track and saw lower times....but those could be debatable too

Originally posted by mark896
... And I'm thinking that the cold air kit will smooth the air coming in below the lid, making it less turbulent. ...


Think again ... air coming into the lid from the hood flows on a path that is about two 30* angles - one up and into the filter, then down and into the MAF. The !FRA is essentailly on a path that is one 90*, straight up into the filter then a full 90* turn into the MAF.

Now you want to intersect these two airflows at the filter and claim that is is less turbulent??? And of the two sytems the AI is going to be the more turbulent of the two, requiring the more radical change in air direction.

More air? Maybe? But less tubulent ... highly unlikely.

dont do it........


its not gonna be less turbulent...

Yeah, you see people all the time who say they "feel" a difference from a tiny mod like a whisper lid or cold air. I hate to break it to you though, but it's all in their heads. A small induction mod like that isn't gonna give your car enough power to feel any difference. On a V6 at least w/ stock exhaust, the lid and cold air makes the exhaust noticeably louder (dunno bout V8), but you can't "feel" any difference when driving.

And like they said, the WS6 was engineered for maximum airflow coming through the nostrils. The airbox was designed for the specific air pattern. Adding the free ram air will only create more turbulence, and interupt the already smooth flow of air coming in.

The CAI works great on all cars. The more air the better. Look on page 68 of the latest issue of GMHTP. This is the Supersucker. Using Autotap, air inlet temp(AIT) was consistently 4-5 degrees cooler than fast toys ram air(FTRA). With the Supersucker I gained 13rwhp on a dynojet. For cars that don't have any ram air inlet these cold air kits work the best ie. the Z28.:D

ya but on ws6:rolleyes: id get some other mod for that type of money

not an efficient mod for that car

Ok, Ok. I've rethought it and you're probably right. So where is the air coming from no regular LS1 cars (non SS's and WS6's)? The radiator dam?

The Chevies SS, Z28, V6 get it from the same place. The front of the airbox. It just so happens that the SS' hood feeds right into it. The Pontiac Firehawks and Trans Ams get ram air from their hood just like the WS6. I'm not sure about the V6 Pontiacs

Heres one other thing none of you guys mentioned.

Because there is air coming in the top/front - GM's dumb Ram Air system, and there is air coming in from the bottom...

What happens if alot more air comes in from the bottom, and it flows out the 'ram' system? Or the other way around?

It creates a vacuum, thus ROBBING air OUT of the air box at a higher volume than the engine can suck in. Creating air resistance, making it very hard for your engine to breathe.

Think about it... Under the wrong situations it could be enough to choke your engine.