Is the only diff In Power between '98-'02 Intake & Cam?

I am thinking of getting a '98 or '99 Z because I don't want to spend a lot.

Is the only diff in power the Cam & Intake on the '01-'02 .
If I can save five or six thousand maybe I can get a Intake and Cam from a '01 or '02 and put it in a '98 or '99.

Any sugestions guys
Thanks,
Jim:confused: :bow:

yup..its not even that noticeable in 1.4 mile times my 98 got 13.3 stock with bald tires.......
id get a 98 they have bigger fuel injectors than all of them but 02

defeintly get a 98 6 speed

Originally posted by Racer-X
I am thinking of getting a '98 or '99 Z because I don't want to spend a lot.

Is the only diff in power the Cam & Intake on the '01-'02 .
If I can save five or six thousand maybe I can get a Intake and Cam from a '01 or '02 and put it in a '98 or '99.

Any sugestions guys
Thanks,
Jim:confused: :bow:

****, if you're savin 5 or 6 grand, you can get longtubes, heads, cam, and ls6 intake and that ****'ll be way faster than an '01 or '02!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you'll be goin about 11's if you did that

The late models actually have a smaller cam. The LS6 intake is what I believe helps them the most. They also went to cast iron exhaust manifolds, away from the stainless tube type manifolds of earlier models. They said the cast makes more power, but I personally think the switch was purely cost cutting. The cast manifolds are much cheaper for GM than the tubes.
It all comes down to the intake IMHO.
Maybe just an HP or two from the manifolds, but not much.
The only thing the cam is good for is torque.
Get a 98, but be very picky.
Dave

people say stuff about us having a "truck" cam or a "smaller" cam, but what it boils down to is how the car drives.. I hear many 98-00 cars griping about no low end torque.. what does it take to get going? TORQUE? I THINK SO! hehe In any case dyno numbers stock for stock do show a difference and I think that the cam is very nice.. I personally like to go from 1st to 4th and be able to switch into 6th soon after and then still out run most sedans on the freeway when fighting for lanes...

I only need to downshift when they have something quick...

I am happy with mine.. soon will have traction at the track and will post some new numbers..

and I am completely BONE STOCK.. not even a filter change.

psycho: You are absolutely right about the earlier cars not having the torque that the later cam gives. This matters alot when it comes to stock for stock... but I would rather have the larger cam once I start modding. Which was day one :)
All an early car would need to match you is LS6 intake IMO. He would just have to rev higher to do it. Once you get into more advanced mods like headers, etc... all bets are off and both early and late cars are neck and neck... no further advantages/disadvantages.
Dave

Dave, I can certainly understand that.. Especially with how rampant blind mods are on our cars. I define blind mods as mods done to a car just cause everyone else has done them. Not because anyone has proof that they are best. I am sure you know how this goes on.
I feel that for me personally, every mod has to be a dollar spent towards a goal. I know others dont feel that way but to each their own.. Hence why my car is still stock.. In the garage I have:
* Et Streets (waiting to find a shop that will install tubes.. Discount tire here wont)
* LCA's (from my other car)
* MAC 3PT STB
They are still not installed. I could do so very easily but I do not feel that I should do it just cause. I would rather do so after I get time to hit the track more. Essentially I want my car to remain as close to stock as possible while running mid 12's. If I can do that and do so relatively stock with minimal bolt ons the more fun it is for me.. Sure I may not win street races all the time going this route but I race on the street about once every 2-3 weeks now..
So I dont really mind as thats my main priority.. My priority is enjoying the car I am paying for.

hehe
But ya never know.. I may open my restaurant ahead of schedule and make a killing and be in a twin turboed dyno queen soon after. hehhe

Hey!
Best of luck in your venture. Hope you succeed with flying colors!

Something to think about when tubing ET Streets...
The tires should be screwed to the rims. Alot of folks don't like doing this, so they run their ETs tubeless, which can be done. If you put tubes in and don't screw the rims, you stand a good chance of spinning the rim inside the bead of the tire and shredding your tube.
Just something to consider.
Dave

The 01-02 5.3 truck cam that went into the LS1s is a less agressive cam. The LS6 intake is what really makes the power. Other changes include the different exhaust manifolds and injectors, which show minimal difference. The 98s also have different valve covers and individually mounted coil-packs. Good luck with your purchase!

You guys forgot the Z06 pressure plate on the M6s too.. Not sure if it's power related but I thought I should throw it in.. :D

Originally posted by mark896
You guys forgot the Z06 pressure plate on the M6s too.. Not sure if it's power related but I thought I should throw it in.. :D

Yes, but if your savin a lot of $$$$ on the car, and your going to put a lot of power into it, you're going to need a better clutch than the Z06 clutch. With the extra cash, you can get a Mcleod Rev-Lok II for $420 which is one of the best clutches in my opinion!

On a VERY cold night at Rockingham, NC.......................

In a Bone Stock 2000 SS, M6, with no SLP Mods...........

Granny Shifting the car............................................... ...

I ran a 13.45 ET @ 106.9 MPH.......................................

No doubt in my mind, the car will go low 13's or maybe high 12's.

No LS6 intake or truck cam here....................................

Enjoy your cars.

what exactly is the difference between the z28 LS1 and the Z06s LS6 motor that makes 80 more hp???

its more like 50-60 hp not 80, regaurdless of what GM says. Kinda the opposite of ford. we underrate :)

Different heads and ca is the main reason, and depending on the year ls1.. intake as well.

and other "minor" things

so if a 02 z28 does a LS6 swap what could it run in the 1/4 mile?

Swap a current Z06 motor into a 02 Z-28? Its' being done, but only by the Pros.

At 405 bhp. the ZO6 will twist the F- body. You'll need body, subframe and suspension upgrades to start with, not to mention a Z06 PCM, all sensors and wiring, just to make it work right.

As mentioned, its being done, but its not a 'back yard' project.

Originally posted by 96Forged281
so if a 02 z28 does a LS6 swap what could it run in the 1/4 mile?

It's so not worth it to do an ls6 swap!!!! You already have the ls6 intake on an '02, so just do H/C and all the bolt ons and you'll be spankin a Z06!!!!! Big Time!!!!!!! You have to also remember that one of the main reasons the Z06 is so fast, isn't b/c of that much more power, but b/c it's that power plus it's only like a 3100 lb car, someone correct me if i'm wrong. And there are way better heads and cams out there that you can put on the LS1 that'll make way more power than stock LS6 heads and stock ls6 cam.

Originally posted by NC Dude
Swap a current Z06 motor into a 02 Z-28? Its' being done, but only by the Pros.

At 405 bhp. the ZO6 will twist the F- body. You'll need body, subframe and suspension upgrades to start with, not to mention a Z06 PCM, all sensors and wiring, just to make it work right.

As mentioned, its being done, but its not a 'back yard' project.

First off, it's not 405 at the wheels, i'm pretty sure it's between 350 - 360 at the wheels. Second off, you wouldn't have to upgrade the suspension and add subframes, it would be nice to upgrade suspension, but it's not needed, and it's not like that kind of power is really gonna kill your frame (it's not that much more than we have already), you could do without the subframes, but it would be nice to have em. And yes, I do think you would need to get the computer tuned to fully take advantage of it, b/c I have a friend that has an untuned ls6 in his t/a cause he blew his ls1 and needed to replace it and got the ls6 cheap, and he has the same bolt-ons I do, and we're dead even. I think the main thing though, is just changing the rev limiter, so you take advantage of the higher revving cam in it, so it may not need to be tuned, just rev limiter raised. Sorry so long, but I figured i'd throw this out and see if my thoughts are correct. If i'm wrong about anything, please correct me, I don't want to give out incorrect info.

Originally posted by Loudmouth LS1
First off, it's not 405 at the wheels, i'm pretty sure it's between 350 - 360 at the wheels.
You hit that nail on the head. ;)

Originally posted by ratio411
You hit that nail on the head. ;)

Woo Hoo!!!!!! :D

Differences between 98-00 and 01-02

*Cam
*LS6 intake
*Deletion of EGR
*MAF
*Computer tuning
*Z06 pressure plate and I believe Slave Cylinder
*Injectors are different
*02 has different rings to fix oil consumption

Chris