AIRBAG Code/Light? Can't turn light off

I bought a momo fighter steering wheel to replace the ugly looking stock one. The airbag light is still on, and its pissing me off. I did a search and alot of people were saying to snip the Brown wire that connects to the BCM, and I did. But nothing happened. I dont want to go snipping more wires without getting more information. BTW that steering wheel is sweeeeet :D

You saw my fighter (http://www.soltan.net/pix/momowhk.jpg) and bought yours afterwards, didn't you? ;)

I later on find out that the brown wire thing must only be applicable on up to year 95... Sorry, I don't have diagrams for 96-97....

Originally posted by madwolf
You saw my fighter (http://www.soltan.net/pix/momowhk.jpg) and bought yours afterwards, didn't you? ;)

I later on find out that the brown wire thing must only be applicable on up to year 95... Sorry, I don't have diagrams for 96-97....

LOL Wolf. Ya I have to admit, I couldnt resist! :D Crap so I cut a wire that I wasnt supposed to....Hmm i wonder what it was:confused: Does anyone know which wire it is? Or do 96+ dont have a wire?

They sure do, but it must be in a different location. Easy if you have a 96 or a 97 shop manual, which I don't.. Sorry.
But yes, the Fighter was a great wheel. I'm gonna put one in my 93 too.

Also don't forget to get yourself a Momo boot and Momo Sphere shift knob. ;) If you do get the Sphere knob, get the one wraped in leather. I had the all aluminum one and it was getting scratched very easy.

Hey wolf thanks for the info. Wouldnt the same wire be connected to the fuse box?? Does that make sense?? LoL. Im not to savy with the electrical part of these cars, so excuse me if that sounds stupid. I thought if it was maybe i can try locating the same wire that connects to the BCM?? Again sorry if that sounds stupid!

No, the fuse does not cover the airbag light. It provides power to the airbag system, but if the PCM detects there's no power (aka no fuse or bad fuse) it will set the AIR BAG light.
You need to find out (and let me know too ;) ) which wire from the BCM goes to the airbag light on the cluster and cut or disconnect that one.

Thanks for the help wolf. I think Im gonna try to PM shoebox later on today. Ill see if I can get more responses before I do. Thanks again!

I am bringing this post back up, because I am wondering if anyone knows anymore about this? I did a search and came across this post and another. The other post said to cut a brown wire off the BCM, but that was on 95 and earlier models. Anyone have a clue as to what wire to cut on the 96-97 models? I am trying to read my Helm's manual, but I think its a little over my head at the moment. ;) I'll keep trying to figure it out and may just pull the cluster and pull the bulb, because I will be doing a scanmaster install into that vent near the guages soon anyways.

OK, if I am reading this manual right, then it looks to be the brown wire coming off the SDM (little box under the center console near the e-brake). Can anyone who is a little more familiar with these electric diagrams and has a service manual confirm this? I am leaning toward just pulling the bulb anyways, but might help someone else out.

I'm having the same problem but I still have the stock steering wheel. My light stays on. Ive checked all the connectors and fuses related to the airbags and they all looked okay. Is there anything else I can do w/o having a professional look at it?

I just went the easy way and pulled out the bulb. I had the same problem as stated above stock steering wheel and the light came on. I really didnt care though, I checked everything and just said screw it and pulled out the bulb.

Bringing this up to the top. Anyone have a good answer for 96+ cars?

Ryan

Yes actually I got rid of my light without removing the bulb, but I forgot all about this thread.

I got the light after removing the module under the console. There is a wire in the harness that must ground or something when you remove the module. I simply cut that wire. I think it was black, but I dont remember. My dad helped me find which one it was with a voltage meter. I currently have the console and tranny out of my car, so I will look again to see exactly which wire I cut.

Matt: You're saying you had a ground a certain wire in that harness? Did you have to add in a certain resistor, or just ground the wire straight?

Man, if you could check it for sure I'd really appreciate it! :)
Ryan

Nah, I didn't have to ground anything at all. I only had to cut a wire. I am at work right now, but I will check it out when I get home.

Basically, I already had both airbags out, and did not have a light. I decided to pull the module out under the console and this gave me a light. There is a wire in the harness to the module that grounds itself when the module is removed. All you have to do is cut this wire. I will double check on exactly which wire it was when I get home.

I'm just gonna cut them all and terminate the ends. I'll cross my fingers and let you know what happens in a couple hours :D.

Ryan

OK, if I am reading this manual right, then it looks to be the brown wire coming off the SDM (little box under the center console near the e-brake). Can anyone who is a little more familiar with these electric diagrams and has a service manual confirm this? I am leaning toward just pulling the bulb anyways, but might help someone else out.

Yeah, the brown wire is the one I cut and it got rid of the Airbag light. It is in the harness that goes to the Airbag module under the center console.

Matt: Thanks so much man! Worked like a charm :thumb:.

Ryan

Ok, guys sorry for a bringing up an old thread, but here goes. I have the same problem with the Airbag light coming on with a stock setup and all airbags hooked up. Can this code be pulled thru the OBD-1 or is it a separate system as if I remember they couldn't get it when I took it to Autozone to scan the code. Does anyone know how to determine the problem and to scan it for the code?

PS
All fuses check out as well.

Start a new post. Yes it can be scanned just as any other code. AZ couldn't scan it cause they think because the connector is OBDII the system is but it's OBDI as you know.

Another reason to start a new post is this one WAS for replacing the steering wheel. To do that, it's easy. Yours is a different case entirely or so it seems.

Allright guys Speedygonzales has already given me some input on the following, but I was hoping others could help out: See my message:

I have the problem with the Airbag light coming on with a stock setup and all airbags hooked up. Can this code be pulled thru the OBD-1 or is it a separate SRS system? If I remember they couldn't get it when I took it to Autozone to scan the code. Does anyone know how to determine the problem and to scan it for the code, as I am trying to determine where the problem lies if it is a bad BCM or airbag sensor?

PS
All fuses check out as well.

Just wanted to tell you that I had my airbag light on and my ABS, had to take it to CHEVY for them to fix it. I believe it was because of a bad return ground to the computer. My receipt says: "found no communication with ABS module and air bag module-followed flow chart and traced fault back to poor contact for return ground (G101). Necessary to repair ground.

You should be able to hook up a scan tool and request an SIR DTC (trouble code). The best way to troubleshoot it is with the factory manuals, as it will tell you step by step how to handle each different DTC. I'd list a few for you, but I have OBD2 :(, not sure how much different it is.

Just wanted to tell you that I had my airbag light on and my ABS, had to take it to CHEVY for them to fix it. I believe it was because of a bad return ground to the computer. My receipt says: "found no communication with ABS module and air bag module-followed flow chart and traced fault back to poor contact for return ground (G101). Necessary to repair ground."

Thanks guys, I posted this up in the LT1 Tech and started a new thread as requested. I'll check your suggestions as well.

Hmm i took mine to 3 different autozones down here and they hooked up their scanners to my car but kept getting errors.. So i learned from shoebox and this forum that the 95 z28 has a obd II connection and the computer is really a obd I.. And at autozone down here they only have the obd II scanners. I dont know if its the same with tas though

my .02 :)

your car is ibd1 autozone scanners wont work..

i have an airbag light on its because of a clock spring...
does anyone know if they go bad when the airbag deplays? ive got 2 columns here that i could simply put my wheel on and go with, or can i take it apart and use tha clock spring in my column?

your car is ibd1 autozone scanners wont work..

i have an airbag light on its because of a clock spring...
does anyone know if they go bad when the airbag deplays? ive got 2 columns here that i could simply put my wheel on and go with, or can i take it apart and use tha clock spring in my column?

I figured as much, anyone know where I can get OBD1 scanned so I don't have to pay the dealer my arm and leg to find out what the problem is?

local mechanic shop become friend be nice...prolly a personal shop with only 1 or 2 guys as opposed to a company...theyre normally a lot more leanient(sp)...

knowsing how to do it and having friendly mechanics around here that i know... i cant believe places even charge for that

The average "scanner" will only access the PCM codes. You need a high end scanner, like the ones the dealer uses - OTC Tech-1 or Tech-2 - to access things like the SRS and ABS systems.

Moving to "General......" This is not an engine tech topic.

Also not a good idea to start a new thread that duplicates one that is already active. You lose the continuity of all the suggestions and input that has already been made. Merging threads................

Thanks Injuneer I appreciate the advise.

doews anyone know if the clock spring goes bad when the airbag deploys?

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anyone?

doews anyone know if the clock spring goes bad when the airbag deploys?

usually does, it, along with the affected crash sensor and DERM are the parts that need to be replaced when the bag deploys

thats what i was afraid of...now if i have a good one in a good car can i simply remove it and put it in my car?

thats what i was afraid of...now if i have a good one in a good car can i simply remove it and put it in my car?

yes

http://shbox.com/1/steering_column_exploded.jpg

is it part number 3? and yellow?

just need to mention i was told yo uhave to unwind it and count the number or times its would up then replace it in the new column the same way??? i would just use the other column but ones a standard and the others an automatic...and the keys are differant

yes, it is number 3 in that diagram, and the part is yellow



yes, remove it, slowly(and gently) turn clockwise until drag is felt, then slowly turn it counterclockwise and count the turns until drag is felt, then turn it back halfway, center the wheels, and install(the clockspring has a couple turns more in it then the rack does, so if halfway is 180 out of the wheels being centered, go ahead and turn it to line it up)

o0o that makes sense...i think mine was broken when the previous owner removed the motor and didnt bolt up the knuckle to the rack correctly...
that makes perfect sense thanks