Q for Scott: GM's release date for official camaro pics / vids / media?

If official production of the 5th gen doesn't start until almost '09, when is GM going to release official photos and sales media about the car?

*IF* they're smart, right before launch....

The Tundra caught EVERYONE by surprise... I hope the Camaro can do the same....

If official production of the 5th gen doesn't start until almost '09, when is GM going to release official photos and sales media about the car?

Usually, that's what "Introductions" are for. Typically happens just a few months before it's ready for dealer orders. Sometimes less.

Like the Malibu, you may get pictures of production-looking prototypes 8-12 months before production, but accurate info on details (ie: engine choices, horsepower, official weight, etc..., usually isn't available till almost the 1st preproduction cars are on the assembly line.

Figure if the 1st preproduction Camaros go down the line in November 2009 for a January introduction, internet should have official info and pics September or October and magazines by their December issue.

...Figure if the 1st preproduction Camaros go down the line in November 2009 for a January introduction, internet should have official info and pics September or October and magazines by their December issue.

2008.... ;)

If official production of the 5th gen doesn't start until almost '09, when is GM going to release official photos and sales media about the car?

Yes!

:D:D:D

(running, ducking, hiding)

None of this is finalized -- but I hope we'd include Enthusiasts.....

How early do they generally start taking orders on a new vehicle?

That's a good Q, not the BS "give us a grand" crap they're doing now... but how long before the car comes out can you place a real order with options and pricing? I think with the silverados is was only like a month or so before they came out?

With the Solstice it was about 5 months but that was a special situation.

That's a good Q, not the BS "give us a grand" crap they're doing now... but how long before the car comes out can you place a real order with options and pricing? I think with the silverados is was only like a month or so before they came out?

Man, that would mean I'd have to wait 'til December '08 to order. Isn't it like a 3 or 4 month wait when you order something? That would mean people wouldn't get their Camaro 'til March '09 at the earliest. Well, March IS the tail end of 1st Quarter '09. Though I'm hoping it's more toward the BEGINNING of 1st Quarter. lol

I'm hoping they take orders early enough that you can pick up your Camaro within a week or two of their official release (assuming that release is January '09).

2008.... ;)

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I think you missed it, he was correcting the earlier post, if it going to be available first quarter 2009, then the first production models would be going down the line Nov. 2008, not Nov. 2009!
Clyde

yeah, got my years mixed up too. That is what I get for scanning instead of reading

Man, that would mean I'd have to wait 'til December '08 to order. Isn't it like a 3 or 4 month wait when you order something? That would mean people wouldn't get their Camaro 'til March '09 at the earliest. Well, March IS the tail end of 1st Quarter '09. Though I'm hoping it's more toward the BEGINNING of 1st Quarter. lol

I'm hoping they take orders early enough that you can pick up your Camaro within a week or two of their official release (assuming that release is January '09).

The wait is usually 4-8 weeks, but closer to 8 in most cases. Might be a LITTLE longer when placing orders at the very beginning, like I plan on doing, because of the allocations among other things. That time frame can be cut down a bit, but you need to know the sales manager VERY well (trust me, I know it can be done if everyone cooperates).

So, theoretically, assuming orders are taken early enough by the dealer, you can have yours as soon as they hit the lots. I ordered a few GMC Acadia's for customers that actually came in before we got any stock units for the lot.

Hope that makes you feel a little better.

If official production of the 5th gen doesn't start until almost '09, when is GM going to release official photos and sales media about the car?Yes!

:D:D:D

(running, ducking, hiding)

None of this is finalized -- but I hope we'd include Enthusiasts.....

LOL that was not a "Yes or No" question. i believe it was a "When" question;)

LOL that was not a "Yes or No" question. i believe it was a "When" question;)

He said the same thing on me when I PMed him! :lol:
I kept thinking, I am reading this right? :lol:

some idiot on the tfw2005.com said he's already got one pre-ordered and has for awhile i think he's full of crap, what would the experts say to this?

yeah.. some dealer has his money... but doesn't mean it has been pre-ordered.

Man, that would mean I'd have to wait 'til December '08 to order. Isn't it like a 3 or 4 month wait when you order something? That would mean people wouldn't get their Camaro 'til March '09 at the earliest. Well, March IS the tail end of 1st Quarter '09. Though I'm hoping it's more toward the BEGINNING of 1st Quarter. lol

I'm hoping they take orders early enough that you can pick up your Camaro within a week or two of their official release (assuming that release is January '09).


I just assume get mine in the spring...the thought of driving my brand new 5th gen home in january on the pristine NY winter roads kind of makes me sick.:cry::cry::cry:

LOL that was not a "Yes or No" question. i believe it was a "When" question;)


"When" what?

Who's on First?

What's on Second???

:D

The wait is usually 4-8 weeks, but closer to 8 in most cases. Might be a LITTLE longer when placing orders at the very beginning, like I plan on doing, because of the allocations among other things. That time frame can be cut down a bit, but you need to know the sales manager VERY well (trust me, I know it can be done if everyone cooperates).

So, theoretically, assuming orders are taken early enough by the dealer, you can have yours as soon as they hit the lots. I ordered a few GMC Acadia's for customers that actually came in before we got any stock units for the lot.

Hope that makes you feel a little better.

Yeah, knowing it's more like 2 months instead of 3 or 4 makes it a bit better. :)

Do we (CamaroZ28.com in general) have a thread started to list dealers that have stated they will not mark the Camaro up over MSRP when it's released? I know Camaro5.com does, but thought it may be a good idea here as well.

Thus far I've only heard back from one local dealer stating they limit pricing on 'hot' cars to MSRP. And while many don't think we should be putting down a deposit, they are accepting $500 (totally refundable) deposits to insure being able to be one of the first to special order your Camaro. They said they had a small list, so I may end up adding my name for only $500.

I just assume get mine in the spring...the thought of driving my brand new 5th gen home in january on the pristine NY winter roads kind of makes me sick.:cry::cry::cry:

Ha, I know. I'll have to trailer my new car home from the dealership. Bet the GF will love that.

"When" what?

Who's on First?

What's on Second???

:D

hey man! you are having way too much fun lately!!! lol

that's a good sign! things most be rolling at a good pace. :D

Still hoping for a countdown clock lol....
Be nice to put on myspace profile. :D

"When" what?

Who's on First?

What's on Second???

:D

Ever think of entering the political arena?

Still hoping for a countdown clock lol....
Be nice to put on myspace profile. :D

go to 5thgen.org

^nice to know thanks.... :bow:
oct. 2008! :cool:

hey man! you are having way too much fun lately!!! lol

that's a good sign! things most be rolling at a good pace. :D

I was thinking the same thing...

I NEED PRICING!!! and DATES!!! for COUPES!!! and CONVERTIBLES!!!! AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:leaving:

some idiot on the tfw2005.com said he's already got one pre-ordered and has for awhile i think he's full of crap, what would the experts say to this?

I would be that idiot. And yes, I have had a thousand down on the car for months. I contacted Chuck at Maroone chevy who has worked there over a decade and sold me my 94, my 95, my 02, my equinox, my dads Tahoe, his Vettes and his Camaro's. We have bought lots of cars from him. Gave him the money, as did my father on good faith. When they order their first lot and options are available, he said we will order everything up. I am behind a few people that work there, and some other customers that beat me to it. As it turns out, my father will be the only one getting one because I am waiting for the big motor to come out. Because I don't want my new car to feel like a slug next to my old car.:p

So, theoretically, assuming orders are taken early enough by the dealer, you can have yours as soon as they hit the lots. I ordered a few GMC Acadia's for customers that actually came in before we got any stock units for the lot.





Now THATS what I need to do :D

I would be that idiot. And yes, I have had a thousand down on the car for months. I contacted Chuck at Maroone chevy who has worked there over a decade and sold me my 94, my 95, my 02, my equinox, my dads Tahoe, his Vettes and his Camaro's. We have bought lots of cars from him. Gave him the money, as did my father on good faith. When they order their first lot and options are available, he said we will order everything up. I am behind a few people that work there, and some other customers that beat me to it. As it turns out, my father will be the only one getting one because I am waiting for the big motor to come out. Because I don't want my new car to feel like a slug next to my old car.:p

Well, technically that's not having one preordered already. It's having $ down to insure you get to order it early and to your specs when they are available. :)

I may contact a local dealer who's taking $500 deposits myself.

I would be that idiot. And yes, I have had a thousand down on the car for months. I contacted Chuck at Maroone chevy who has worked there over a decade and sold me my 94, my 95, my 02, my equinox, my dads Tahoe, his Vettes and his Camaro's. We have bought lots of cars from him. Gave him the money, as did my father on good faith. When they order their first lot and options are available, he said we will order everything up. I am behind a few people that work there, and some other customers that beat me to it. As it turns out, my father will be the only one getting one because I am waiting for the big motor to come out. Because I don't want my new car to feel like a slug next to my old car.:p

In other words, you do NOT have one preordered.

Money was given to "Chuck" in the hope that he will sell one of the 1st ones that come on the lot to you... assuming he's still there.



My son now works at a pretty sizable Chrysler dealership that also is tied with an equally large Dodge dealership over in Pheonix. They are priming up for an equally big introduction, the Dodge Challenger.

Some of the junior salespeople have 6 people on the list waiting for the car. Some of the more senior people, even more. At least a few of dozen sales people minimum at the dealership.

Everyone's name goes on the list in order. At the same time, there are those people gullible enough to throw money to get on this list to ensure they get one of the first models which isn't even necessary.

High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.

I'm not sure what you mean about giving away money on "Good Faith". Do you expect a discount? Do you expect this money to be deducted from the dealer markup? Does giving away this money a year before any options or ordering information is available for dealers ensure you are are a list?

I suspect you put an actual "deposit" or "Pre-order" on the vehicles you mentioned as your previous experience. But these vehicles you mentioned were either already in production or were mainstream vehicles. I suspect order information was already available. Even so, I don't believe you ever ordered a vehicle a year and a half in advance before.

Don't get me wrong, if you want to walk into a showroom tomorrow and place an order on a 2011 C7 Corvette "On good faith", you won't find anyone not willing to take your cash and place you on a so-called "List" and use your money as a no-intrest loan for the next 4 years. But you still haven't bought a guarantee that you'll have the first C7 Corvette (or in this case, Camaro) sold by the dealership, let alone the 1st one in your area.

So, being that anyone with internet access can brag about having a deposit on a 5th gen Camaro regardless as to if they actually do, outside of being able to say you gave someone free money for the next year and a half to get an imaginary position on a dealership list (which is in reality kept by each individual sales person), the point is exactly what?? :shrug:

High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.

Just thought I'd add that the manager of the dealership I've spoken to about their $500 deposit has stated their policy is to limit 'hot' vehicles to MSRP, no more.

So, while I agree a lot will probably markup the Camaro, not all will. Since the dealership has assured me the deposit is fully refundable, you get to order the Camaro to your specs, and they limit price to MSRP, I believe leaving a measly $500 deposit to insure I don't have to wait any longer due to demand and markup is worth the few bucks they may get in interest on my $500. (Damn, talk about a run on sentence! LOL)

"When" what?

Who's on First?

What's on Second???

:D

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh your mean scott:mad: . LOL :D

In other words, you do NOT have one preordered.

Money was given to "Chuck" in the hope that he will sell one of the 1st ones that come on the lot to you... assuming he's still there.



My son now works at a pretty sizable Chrysler dealership that also is tied with an equally large Dodge dealership over in Pheonix. They are priming up for an equally big introduction, the Dodge Challenger.

Some of the junior salespeople have 6 people on the list waiting for the car. Some of the more senior people, even more. At least a few of dozen sales people minimum at the dealership.

Everyone's name goes on the list in order. At the same time, there are those people gullible enough to throw money to get on this list to ensure they get one of the first models which isn't even necessary.

High intrest cars like the Challenger (the current Mustang experienced this when it first came out and no doubt the Camaro will as well) are going to be priced high by the dealership initially. This is where putting money to get on the list is pretty pointless: The cars will go for a certain, non-negotible amount, and whoever is willing to pay the price gets the car. Even employee & family discounts are going to be over sticker. Even if the car sits on the showroom, it serves to create showroom traffic.

I'm not sure what you mean about giving away money on "Good Faith". Do you expect a discount? Do you expect this money to be deducted from the dealer markup? Does giving away this money a year before any options or ordering information is available for dealers ensure you are are a list?

I suspect you put an actual "deposit" or "Pre-order" on the vehicles you mentioned as your previous experience. But these vehicles you mentioned were either already in production or were mainstream vehicles. I suspect order information was already available. Even so, I don't believe you ever ordered a vehicle a year and a half in advance before.

Don't get me wrong, if you want to walk into a showroom tomorrow and place an order on a 2011 C7 Corvette "On good faith", you won't find anyone not willing to take your cash and place you on a so-called "List" and use your money as a no-intrest loan for the next 4 years. But you still haven't bought a guarantee that you'll have the first C7 Corvette (or in this case, Camaro) sold by the dealership, let alone the 1st one in your area.

So, being that anyone with internet access can brag about having a deposit on a 5th gen Camaro regardless as to if they actually do, outside of being able to say you gave someone free money for the next year and a half to get an imaginary position on a dealership list (which is in reality kept by each individual sales person), the point is exactly what?? :shrug:


no ****. How exactly do you order a car that has no options available, no colors, no motor and absolutely no specs on the car. Thank you captain obvious. All you can do is put money down and reserve your spot in line, simple. And my car would be for sticker. The benefit of having my fathers good friend who lives 4 houses down and is a long timer at a dealership is simply to reserve my spot. He's a friend, someone who knows that I will walk in, knowing more about the car than any salesman, and pay cash as we have with all our cars. no bull**** no hassles just sold. he told me as soon as I first spoke to him that they would be getting well over sticker in the first run and he was doing me a favor. How exactly is it bragging when you put money down since anyone can do it. Anyone can do the same. Just having some Newb chump like Mr Wolf call me out as an idiot is ****ing disrespect. He doesn't know **** about me. And when it comes to F-Bodies and Ls1's, I'll bet my first born I know more than him. I have been driving Camaro's since I was 16 and I plan on getting the new one, my spot WAS reserved.

Edited to eliminate my harshness. Somewhat.

Well, technically that's not having one preordered already. It's having $ down to insure you get to order it early and to your specs when they are available. :)

I may contact a local dealer who's taking $500 deposits myself.

IGave him the money, as did my father on good faith. When they order their first lot and options are available, he said we will order everything up.

thats what I said.