427 SS in 2010 I think it should happen!

it should in my opinion. i would pay 40,000.00 for it. its still 10-15 thousand cheaper than a vette. what ever they do im waiting after the first year production is done and take alook and see what they do to the car its 2nd year. learned my lesson with a 93 camaro z28 i had. first year production cars are trouble

I think it should happen too, whether it will or not, who knows. I do know that I won't pay 40,000 plus grand either for the top dog Camaro, but I would like to see something with alot of power that will outshine any of the competitors offerings.

I wouldn't be one bit suprised if there are 40k Camaros running around that don't have a 15k LS7 in them... So if you insist on getting your hopes up be prepared to sell a bodypart as well.

Speaking of the 427....anyone see the new GMHTP mag with the GMPP Camaro LS7 swap? I'd love to see it as the high-end option in the new Camaro, but there will probably be something better by then. It will be interesting to see if the 5th gen comes with the new 3-valve heads that GM just got the patent for, or the rumors of dual in-block cams.

Again, the high performance Camaro will be the Z/28 not the SS. Scott has dropped hints repeatedly.

Again, the high performance Camaro will be the Z/28 not the SS. Scott has dropped hints repeatedly.

And scott can repeatedly drop hints all he wants, I dont think scott is going to risk his job by telling people on the internet whats really going down inside GM.

Speaking of the 427....anyone see the new GMHTP mag with the GMPP Camaro LS7 swap? I'd love to see it as the high-end option in the new Camaro, but there will probably be something better by then. It will be interesting to see if the 5th gen comes with the new 3-valve heads that GM just got the patent for, or the rumors of dual in-block cams.

I haven't seen that issue yet.. is that this months or is it an older one? I agree though, by the time the new Camaro comes out, there will probably be another LSx variant that will kick the LS7 off the throne.

I haven't seen that issue yet.. is that this months or is it an older one? I agree though, by the time the new Camaro comes out, there will probably be another LSx variant that will kick the LS7 off the throne.

it will happen but to be honest gm took alot of time and money to engineer that motor and i cant see them modifing anything out under the LSX again. i think if they are going to spend the money i think they will move on to building a completly different motor.

:lol:

I haven't seen that issue yet.. is that this months or is it an older one? I agree though, by the time the new Camaro comes out, there will probably be another LSx variant that will kick the LS7 off the throne.

LS7 will most likely be dead by 2010. Rumors are a 6.2L and a supercharged 6.2L.

:thumb: :lol:

Speaking of the 427....anyone see the new GMHTP mag with the GMPP Camaro LS7 swap? I'd love to see it as the high-end option in the new Camaro, but there will probably be something better by then. It will be interesting to see if the 5th gen comes with the new 3-valve heads that GM just got the patent for, or the rumors of dual in-block cams.

oh, the LS7 camaro that went 12's? yea, that thing was sick... :rolleyes:

I haven't seen that issue yet.. is that this months or is it an older one? I agree though, by the time the new Camaro comes out, there will probably be another LSx variant that will kick the LS7 off the throne.

Its this months issue. They also have sections on the LSx block (badass) and some new cheap hi-po GM LS heads.

oh, the LS7 camaro that went 12's? yea, that thing was sick... :rolleyes:

Yeah, the transmission kept giving him problems hanging up between the gears. Thats what was holding the car back a lot.

And scott can repeatedly drop hints all he wants, I dont think scott is going to risk his job by telling people on the internet whats really going down inside GM.
Uh....
...I really don't know what to say...
Time for me to slowly walk toward the exit.
*leaves thread*

Uh....
...I really don't know what to say...
Time for me to slowly walk toward the exit.
*leaves thread*

then GTFO.

then GTFO.
and QWERTY too!

I want to see a ultra high performance option on the Camaro. I'm not sure I would like to see the ultra high price for it.

Regardless of the displacement or horsepower, it won't be enough for a large number of people. There will be plenty of opportunities when the time comes to change that, but for now we can only speculate.

Its this months issue. They also have sections on the LSx block (badass) and some new cheap hi-po GM LS heads.



Yeah, the transmission kept giving him problems hanging up between the gears. Thats what was holding the car back a lot.

That Camaro is badass, so's the Goat. But I want that LSX block. Damn, too many projects not enough loot. The heads seem like a killer deal too. GM rules!

Preposterous! The LSX block is a piece of CRAP, why the hell would anybody want something thats clearly based on the yestertech trash employed by both Ford (GT500 motor) and DCX (any hemi) is beyond me. Its clear GM cheaped out and caved into the bean counters. If they had any techincal savy the engine would have been cast out of ultralight unobtanium! Get with program GM and stop using ideas from the Ford and Mopars' playbook :p

The LSX block is cast iron ain't it? Atleast thats what I read in hot rod, nice block btw :D

It's clear the post above me was talking about the LSX block...but in general, there are times I am not sure if people are talking about LSx/LS# vs. the LSX...

Yes LSX block is cast iron...nothing wrong with cast iron IMO - up to 2,500hp (for the block at least...) -the block would be the last thing you will have to worry about.

anyways...yea I think everyone on this board would like to see something big go in the 2nd/3rd year model...

I wouldn't be one bit suprised if there are 40k Camaros running around that don't have a 15k LS7 in them... So if you insist on getting your hopes up be prepared to sell a bodypart as well.

15k isn't far off from the ZZ572...in fact, the 620hp version is probably cheaper with 720 not far off (though I understand there would be more costs in lots of other areas)...hmmmm......

ZZ572 in 2011???!!?!? :D

I still say GM NEEDS to give us performance options like Ford. Look at the Must, you can get aftermarket ex installed, a SC installed, UNDER FACTORY WARRENTY!

I still say GM NEEDS to give us performance options like Ford. Look at the Must, you can get aftermarket ex installed, a SC installed, UNDER FACTORY WARRENTY!

something like that actually seems reasonable/realistic

Of course I'd love to see.........and buy, a 427 Camaro! The real question is, will I be able to afford one? If not, I can always get one of those LSX blocks, and build my own. HMMM, I wonder if it was designed to accept the new 3 valve heads? They said it was designed with interchangeability in mind! Just how far did they go with that? Either way, those new L92 heads are a nice deal too, and should make great power, from what I've read in GMHTP.

Again, the high performance Camaro will be the Z/28 not the SS. Scott has dropped hints repeatedly.

That's so after a few years they can bring out an SS upgrade to the Z28. Like they did with the 4th gen..

SS has always been the top model.
SS always will be the top model.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

:cool:

That's so after a few years they can bring out an SS upgrade to the Z28. Like they did with the 4th gen..

SS has always been the top model.
SS always will be the top model.

So let it be written, so let it be done.

:cool:

I understand why many are in support of Z28 being the top model...but what reasoning is there to have SS as top model, besides the fact that is just kinda "sounds" familiar since that's how it's been for all models recently? The Camaro shouldn't be in the SS category with every other car - but separate and have its own unique identity. Corvette SS.....no, Camaro SS.....no...looks wrong and the S's piss me off because they remind me of snakes which reminds me of Cobras which reminds me of the Mustang.
Z06/Z28

it should in my opinion. i would pay 40,000.00 for it.
:lol: !!!

:lol: !!!

do you have any idea what your talking about. a high model camaro in 2002 was 33,000 all said and done. for an extra seven thousand you get a 427 and new tech. this car is going to have bigger wheels and tires, the whole drive train is going to be upgraded compared to the 2002 model. on top off invlation. so i dont see whats so funny.

do you have any idea what your talking about. a high model Camaro in 2002 was 33,000 all said and done. for an extra seven thousand you get a 427 and new tech. this car is going to have bigger wheels and tires, the whole drive train is going to be upgraded compared to the 2002 model. on top off inflation. so i don't see whats so funny.
I think you took his comment as the price of 40k is too high...when in fact, I believe he is laughing because it is too low...

Gm will not put the price range near 45,000 because that will decrease sales. if your spending any where near 45,000 buy a vette. simple as that.

If this "ZL1" is built it will be a low production kind of thing. So the $45,000 is not going to decrease sales of all of the other cars. Did the GT500 kill Mustangs sales? Hell, it probably helped sales.

Some of us don't want a Corvette. I would rather have a car that costs the same as a Vette, but at the same time, outperform the base model Corvette and run close to their top dog. I may be one of the few who would be willing to pay the top dollar ( up to 50K) that would come with such a car, but I know I'm not the only one willing to throw down big money for a car that only a few have. I will get a 5th gen. and I want the baddest mofo that GM builds from the factory. (Hoping it's supercharged.) If this means I have to wait an extra couple of years, then so be it.

Go buy the Corvette and let me know how you feel when the Camaros top dog makes it look slow. I know which driver will be the one with the big grin on their face.:D

Gm will not put the price range near 45,000 because that will decrease sales. if your spending any where near 45,000 buy a vette. simple as that.
damn... if i tell you my life story will you be able to accurately tell my fortune? you just seem to have all the facts. do you know what you're talking about? :confused:

Gm will not put the price range near 45,000 because that will decrease sales. if your spending any where near 45,000 buy a vette. simple as that.
Yea....a Z28 is not going to be $45,000.........you are talking about what would probably be a very limited production run of 427 Camaros.............how does that relate at all to GM's sales/etc./etc.........

Yea....a Z28 is not going to be $45,000.........you are talking about what would probably be a very limited production run of 427 Camaros.............how does that relate at all to GM's sales/etc./etc.........

what? i was talking about from the begining about buying a 427 camaro for 40,000 not 45,000, but 40,000 tops. GM is not going to throw a high price tag on a half fiberglass half sheetmetal body car, near there all fiberglass body, steel frame vette.

what? i was talking about from the begining about buying a 427 camaro for 40,000 not 45,000, but 40,000 tops. GM is not going to throw a high price tag on a half fiberglass half sheetmetal body car, near there all fiberglass body, steel frame vette.
you know this... how?

what? i was talking about from the begining about buying a 427 camaro for 40,000 not 45,000, but 40,000 tops. GM is not going to throw a high price tag on a half fiberglass half sheetmetal body car, near there all fiberglass body, steel frame vette.
yes..I know

The point of my post was they would not price something like the typical Z28 model at $45,000....but something like a limited production run of 427 powered Camaros is a different story IMO.... Unless you are saying that the Z28 should be the 427 - then nothing I've said really applies..

Gm will not put the price range near 45,000 because that will decrease sales. if your spending any where near 45,000 buy a vette. simple as that.
I could afford a 'vette. I own a Camaro (Blue '02 SS 'vert with turbocharger etc.). I like Camaros better. I like a back seat. I like the looks of the 4th gen Camaro better than Corvette's. I don't know how many like me are out there but if GM puts a 427 in, I for one will buy it.

They almost certainly wont.

And anyone who would actually be able to afford one can also afford the $15,000 for the LS7 and $40,000 for the z/28 and do a swap if they have to have it.

The LS7 is not going to end up in the 5th gen.

Z28 will be the top high production model. I wouldn't be suprised to see a 427 Camaro, but it wont be an SS.

Camaro (RS) --> SS --> Z28 --> ZL1............face it.