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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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Cadillac BRX: BMW X3 fighter

The only reservation I have is that it'd be based on a FWD platform... I would hope that the Cadillac would be AWD only.... they have moved nicely away from FWD (save for the current DTS), and I'd hate to see a retreat on this move for Cadillac:

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Cadillac, Saab considering Epsilon-based sport wagons; Caddy vehicle would be BMW X3 fighter
JASON STEIN | Automotive News
Posted Date: 6/20/05
DETROIT -- In a push to get more aggressive in a growing segment, General Motors is developing premium mid-sized sport wagons for Cadillac and Saab.

The Cadillac vehicle, referred to internally as the BRX, is in the final stages of approval, say supplier, industry and GM sources. It would go into production in 2008 for sale in Europe and North America as a BMW X3 fighter.

The Saab vehicle, known internally as the 9-4X, would be the smallest of three Saab SUVs. The all-wheel-drive vehicle is scheduled to be produced in Europe in 2009.

Both vehicles would be based on GM's next-generation Epsilon architecture. The next generation of Epsilon, which currently is used for front-wheel-drive mid-sized cars such as the Saab 9-3, will have all-wheel drive capability.

If approved, the BRX would fit in Cadillac's lineup below the SRX sport wagon. One industry source said the base price will be in the mid-$30,000s, between the CTS sedan and the SRX. Most important, it could give Cadillac a smaller sport wagon as it pushes to build sales in Europe.

The BRX will borrow the 2.8-liter V-6 used in the CTS sedan as its base engine. A 3.6-liter V-6 will be available in a top-of-the-line model. Sources say there will be no third-row seat available.

Cadillac spokesman Jeff Kuhlman would not confirm the plans. But he said: "There are segments Cadillac does not participate in at both ends of the spectrum. We will look for opportunities in all of those."

Sources say the BRX could be built at GM's Trollhattan plant in Sweden or in North America.

Jens Meiners contributed to this report
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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I can't wait for this SUV, it will be on my maybe list come 2008ish

I thought it was going to be on Theta 2.0? I'd expect AWD to be standard. Caddy should avoid FWD like the plauge. This would also make a great vehicle for Cadillacs first hybrid.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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I agree, AWD should be stanadard, and we should see ONLY the 2.8 and 3.6 with the upcoming 6spd autso.
Theta makes a good chassis, I just hope they improve handling.
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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They are putting a lot of work into vehicle dynamics on theta 2. This platform is being engineered out of GM Asia (read: Daewoo S3X).
Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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"The Cadillac vehicle, referred to internally as the BRX, is in the final stages of approval, say supplier, industry and GM sources. It would go into production in 2008 for sale in Europe and North America as a BMW X3 fighter."

Where are the "supplier, industry and GM sources" that want to talk about the Camaro that is in the same sittuation as this thing? I always hear that no one talks about vehicles before a certain point, but I guess it's just with cars that people would actually want to know about early?
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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GM likes to build a sweet vehicle, then let ONE THING f*ck the whole car up! Like the new V8 Impala HAS to be FWD!
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
GM likes to build a sweet vehicle, then let ONE THING f*ck the whole car up! Like the new V8 Impala HAS to be FWD!

In all fairness, the new Impala is more of a refresh than an all new model....
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by MarineReconZ28
Where are the "supplier, industry and GM sources" that want to talk about the Camaro that is in the same sittuation as this thing? I always hear that no one talks about vehicles before a certain point, but I guess it's just with cars that people would actually want to know about early?
PacerX, IREngineer, Fbodfather. Dude do you NOT remember Johnny Hunkins at PHR talking about Delphi bidding on the Camaro steering column about 10 months ago?
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
PacerX, IREngineer, Fbodfather. Dude do you NOT remember Johnny Hunkins at PHR talking about Delphi bidding on the Camaro steering column about 10 months ago?
Don't bring me into this
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mr00jimbo
GM likes to build a sweet vehicle, then let ONE THING f*ck the whole car up! Like the new V8 Impala HAS to be FWD!
THat isn't really a good example since they took an existing FWD car and added a V8. It would have taken a lot more to ad RWD too
Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
PacerX, IREngineer, Fbodfather. Dude do you NOT remember Johnny Hunkins at PHR talking about Delphi bidding on the Camaro steering column about 10 months ago?
Ok. you're right.
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