Almost took out a 99+GT with a slightly modded v6, (VID)

Jsut a warning sometimes when you click my vids porn comes up(crappy free video host) So NWS*


SO I was at the track I bogged the launch bad and just had a crappy run only ran a 14.9

mods...
-FRA
-shaved stock lid
-cutout
-lsd
-home depot smooth bellows
-removed jack and spare

and the belt was on for this run, I ran a 14.7 earlier in the night with the belt on.

Either way raced a 99+ GT with at least exhaust close race, he is faster, but I lighted him and almost edged him out by the end.

he won by 2/10ths but it was a 14.9 vs a 14.3.

http://www.motorcityoutlaws.com/userfiles/MustangEater82/99%2BGTalmostwon.wmv

Not bad man, good race...Thats one fast v6 u got there ;)

damn that GT was starting to pull at the end...good runs

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We could only be so lucky. lol Anyway, good race.

Kyle

Absolutely incredible. I am sending this to all my buddies. V6 bags GT in 1/8 and loses by a hair in the 1/4. I love it.

-Dustin-

Kills me is I bogged the launch and ran a 14.9...

I ran a 14.7 earlier, exact same setup... Ran 2 beltless runs before this and ran 14.6s, I would have had him on any of those runs.. :mad:


-sorry for the rant, I just love would have had another "generation" of GTs I could say I beat in a clean race. :p

Absolutely incredible. I am sending this to all my buddies. V6 bags GT in 1/8 and loses by a hair in the 1/4. I love it.

-Dustin-More like a Bad GT driver...we all know they perform similar to 6spd LT1s stock for stock

More like a Bad GT driver...we all know they perform similar to 6spd LT1s stock for stock

No one is claiming that all GTs are slower then v6s... this guy had a clean run... might have been an auto or something but here is the run...

R/T .131 .427
60' 2.175 2.252
330 6.226 6.231
1/8 9.589 9.446
mph 73.09 78.67
1000 12.479 12.153
1/4 14.911 14.393
mph 92.73 101.15

Right 1st .2221

he didn't do an obvious blow off the line with like a 2.5 60' his r/t wasn't great. I bogged down on my launch, you can hear it in the car.

Whatever the circumstances he got a clean run, and it was damn close at the finish :)


PS my best run of the night with the drivebelt on...

R/T .193
60' 2.127
330 6.105
1/8 9.449
mph 73.47
1000 12.326
1/4 14.752
mph 92.94

Best run of the night with drivebelt off...

R/T .122
60' 2.134
330 6.097
1/8 9.418
mph 74.15
1000 12.263
1/4 14.656
mph 94.26

More like a Bad GT driver...we all know they perform similar to 6spd LT1s stock for stock

Yea, I didnt pay attention to the 1/4 times, kinda below average. Still props to making it so close with a V6. Nicely done.

-Dustin-

good run eric! wish i could have been out there with u guys. :(
strip dont open up here for another month or so! this sucks

btw for what its worth there are v6s much faster then me...

there are n/a v6s in the low 13s, and a guy running 13.7s all internally stock motor(granted lots of other bolt ons)

There was a guy with a newer V6 Camaro (N/A) that was running around 13.8 lastweek at the local dragstrip. This was in South Jersey.

There was a guy with a newer V6 Camaro (N/A) that was running around 13.8 lastweek at the local dragstrip. This was in South Jersey.


That was little G,(craig) he has 4.10s, suspension, tune and weight reduction I think his raceweight is like 3,000 flat, as in raceweight with him in the car.

The main reason it was close was the reaction time. He ran a 14.3 to your 14.9. Those times are not close at all. .6's is an eternity and 9mph is a huge difference in performance!! :rolleyes:

That was little G,(craig) he has 4.10s, suspension, tune and weight reduction I think his raceweight is like 3,000 flat, as in raceweight with him in the car.

That guy can't drive at all. Theres a guy at my trck (New England Dragway) Has a '01 GT with 4.10's,LT's,Drag suspension and got his raceweight in the 3000lb range and he got it to go 12.9 last fall in cool air.

For all we know, that could have been the GT's worse run of the night...or it's best. With the 101 mph trap speed, he should as we all know be able to hit high 13's and I bet it was a 5 speed car.

He sailed by you at the end by 10 mph...which is a smoking.

But none the less, you have a good running v6 there.

The main reason it was close was the reaction time. He ran a 14.3 to your 14.9. Those times are not close at all. .6's is an eternity and 9mph is a huge difference in performance!! :rolleyes:


Like I said before... not denying that he was gonna waste me, he has 65 more hp... probably more since he sounded modded...

I don't care what billy bob or some magazine ran in some car somewhere that was built by god...

That has no affect on MY guy that lined up NEXT TO ME.

sure I cut a better light, but did he get an ok launch, not a john force launch but not bad....


ITs the track run what you brung.... I brought my little v6 camaro, he brough his mustang GT, we were at same line, same set of lights, no one "jumped the line" like a street race, fair race heads up all the way down the 1/4.

he still beat me but just goes to show what you may come across at an average track on an average test and tune day... I know GTs are capable of more but I have also seen them run worse.

Just posting a vid and my story figure it might entertain some... personally I love it when someone beats a car that runs a faster time.

Anyone can go out and buy crap, and make their car faster, but its funny when you line up side by side against a slower car and he beats you to the finish line. I like those races better.

i think 88saleen misunderstood, or just decided not to read what u had wrote!
hey saleen he was talking about a v6maro that was running 13.8, not a 01gt with those mods! ;)

I did'nt mean any disrespect. You have a very stong running V6. However the results are misleading to the average person because you had such a better reaction time thats all. You beat him by 3 tenths off the line which is huge.I know its run what you brung at the track (I've been racing at the track for 10 yrs and am liscensed to run 9 sec times in my Saleen) and anything can happen.I just wanted to point out to everyone that if he could of cut a light close to you(because his light was absolute horrible) it would'nt of been that close of a race.
And I thought the mods you mentioned (gears,suspension,weight) were on the mustang .my bad. Because there is a GT up here with those mods in the 12's and I thought the guy you raced had those mods and only ran a 14.3. But if his car was stock the time is'nt that bad.

Like I said before... not denying that he was gonna waste me, he has 65 more hp... probably more since he sounded modded...

I don't care what billy bob or some magazine ran in some car somewhere that was built by god...

That has no affect on MY guy that lined up NEXT TO ME.

sure I cut a better light, but did he get an ok launch, not a john force launch but not bad....


ITs the track run what you brung.... I brought my little v6 camaro, he brough his mustang GT, we were at same line, same set of lights, no one "jumped the line" like a street race, fair race heads up all the way down the 1/4.

he still beat me but just goes to show what you may come across at an average track on an average test and tune day... I know GTs are capable of more but I have also seen them run worse.

Just posting a vid and my story figure it might entertain some... personally I love it when someone beats a car that runs a faster time.

Anyone can go out and buy crap, and make their car faster, but its funny when you line up side by side against a slower car and he beats you to the finish line. I like those races better.

The same thing happens in street races all the time. Yeah, you treed him and made it a decent race for the win light.

This is how cars on the street beat/hang with cars they shouldn't. All it takes in a street race is someone to get a jump and they already have a pretty good advantage. Imagine if he got the .1xx light and you had the .4xx light. Woulda been ugly for you. Sure, you were close to him at the end, but when people see the .6 and 9 mph difference, that's all they will look at.

Pretty quick V6 though. :)

Because there is a GT up here with those mods in the 12's and I thought the guy you raced had those mods and only ran a 14.3. But if his car was stock the time is'nt that bad.

We could all play this game all day. Case in point, there are cammed LS1s running low 10s and bolt-on LS1s running low 11s/high 10s. Does that mean my full bolt-on cammed LS1 is going to run a 10.3 @ 13x? I've seen guys with the same mods you mentioned running mid 13s out here, and yes they know how to drive. You can't always lump all cars w/the same mods into one category. Some people spend much more time getting their car dialed in and learning how to drive the piss out of it and will go much quicker than others.

The same thing happens in street races all the time. Funny you should say that, have a funny story...Had a buddy back in HS , he owned a LS1 TA, his girlfriend a few mths later went out and bought a 6 cycl. maro, he was driving and lined up against a newer 2v...anyway he went on to not only beat but annilaite this guy from the light..

We could all play this game all day. Case in point, there are cammed LS1s running low 10s and bolt-on LS1s running low 11s/high 10s. Does that mean my full bolt-on cammed LS1 is going to run a 10.3 @ 13x? I've seen guys with the same mods you mentioned running mid 13s out here, and yes they know how to drive. You can't always lump all cars w/the same mods into one category. Some people spend much more time getting their car dialed in and learning how to drive the piss out of it and will go much quicker than others.
What I was saying is if a Gt that weighs 3000lbs, has gears, suspension and only a running 14.3. There is something wrong with that picture. Kind of like a bolt on LS1 running mid to high 13's. I know you can get 2 cars and have the same mods but 1 is faster. But a car with bolt on's and with weight reduction running times that are equal the same model car's stock times(some people have gone quicker than 14.3 in stock Gt's) is kind of rediculous. Don't you think?

Sure, you were close to him at the end, but when people see the .6 and 9 mph difference, that's all they will look at.

Pretty quick V6 though. :)

Exactly, Thats the first thing I look at. Then I look at the other things such as reaction and 60' times.
I did'nt even watch the video. I just read the timeslip info he wrote.Thats all I needed to know about the race.

What I was saying is if a Gt that weighs 3000lbs, has gears, suspension and only a running 14.3. There is something wrong with that picture. Kind of like a bolt on LS1 running mid to high 13's. I know you can get 2 cars and have the same mods but 1 is faster. But a car with bolt on's and with weight reduction running times that are equal the same model car's stock times(some people have gone quicker than 14.3 in stock Gt's) is kind of rediculous. Don't you think?

Depends on the weather conditions. You'd be surprised how cars run out here in 110* weather and 6000' DA. :) It's tough to compare cars' performance from location to location.

this is what i like to see, a video to back up the claims. Nice try, better luck next time.

this is what i like to see, a video to back up the claims. Nice try, better luck next time.

Haven't seen any from you. :confused:

Exactly, he claims alot of things, but no time slips, dyno sheets, or video's to back it up.

-Dustin-

this is what i like to see, a video to back up the claims. Nice try, better luck next time.
:lol: We all like to see them too man!

Absolutely incredible. I am sending this to all my buddies. V6 bags GT in 1/8 and loses by a hair in the 1/4. I love it.

-Dustin-

Losing by .6 in the 1/4 isn't losing "by a hair"... :rolleyes:

this guy had a clean run... might have been an auto or something but here is the run...

R/T .131 .427
60' 2.175 2.252
330 6.226 6.231
1/8 9.589 9.446
mph 73.09 78.67
1000 12.479 12.153
1/4 14.911 14.393
mph 92.73 101.15

Right 1st .2221

he didn't do an obvious blow off the line with like a 2.5 60' his r/t wasn't great.

How did he have a "clean" run exactly?

A 2.25 60 ft time is HORRIBLE - he'd drop his ET almost .5 just by doing a (so-so) 2.0 60 ft.
I'd hang my head in shame if I ran a 2.25 60 foot...

(A 2.5 60 ft wouldn't even be worth mentioning/discussing BTW... ;) )

I was just judging by the video, seems close for 2 fewer cylinders.

-Dustin-

Wow.

Losing by .6 in the 1/4 isn't losing "by a hair"... :rolleyes:

We weren't comparing power, its obvious a 265hp v8 is going to make more power then a 200 hp v6, similarly weighted cars. He won by .2, not .6 I got him on r/t, very rarely do people have exact R/Ts. Notice in vid I bog my launch so wasn't a clean launch for me too. That run was my slowest of the night I have other runs I would have beaten him in and were only 3/10ths slower then him on that night.


How did he have a "clean" run exactly?

A 2.25 60 ft time is HORRIBLE - he'd drop his ET almost .5 just by doing a (so-so) 2.0 60 ft.
I'd hang my head in shame if I ran a 2.25 60 foot...

(A 2.5 60 ft wouldn't even be worth mentioning/discussing BTW... ;) )

I said clean not perfect. A 2.2 for a GT or f-body on street tires isn't good, but its not a "horrid launch" I know the formulas and such for racing and such but with a 2.2 60' he didn't sit there in a cloud of smoke at launch, he got out of the hole.


In a scientific laboratory dragstrip with john Force and a clone of him driving each car, and no variables. A mustang GT will win everytime.


In a dragstrip in Orlando, on a normal test and tune night, it can be a close race.



Why do v8 guys get so butthurt when a v6er admits a loss :confused: , it kills me.

not to bust your bubble but the last time I checked:

14.9
-14.3
-------
.6

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

not to bust your bubble but the last time I checked:

14.9
-14.3
-------
.6

:D :D :D :D :D

Not to burst your bubble but you don't know much about drag racing...

R/T .131 .427
60' 2.175 2.252
330 6.226 6.231
1/8 9.589 9.446
mph 73.09 78.67
1000 12.479 12.153
1/4 14.911 14.393
mph 92.73 101.15

Right 1st .2221

R/T(Reaction time)
.427
-.131
-------
.296

ET
14.911
-14.393
--------
0.518

Difference of ET-difference of R/T
0.518
-0.296
-------
.222

.222(The difference of time he went through the lights, and when I went through the lights)As stated at the bottom by the track(Right 1st .2221)


YOu do know someone can run a faster time and still lose a race at a dragstrip, right?

:D:D:D:D:D

Not to burst your bubble but you don't know much about drag racing...

R/T .131 .427
60' 2.175 2.252
330 6.226 6.231
1/8 9.589 9.446
mph 73.09 78.67
1000 12.479 12.153
1/4 14.911 14.393
mph 92.73 101.15

Right 1st .2221

R/T(Reaction time)
.427
-.131
-------
.296

ET
14.911
-14.393
--------
0.518

Difference of ET-difference of R/T
0.518
-0.296
-------
.222

.222(The difference of time he went through the lights, and when I went through the lights)As stated at the bottom by the track(Right 1st .2221)


YOu do know someone can run a faster time and still lose a race at a dragstrip, right?

:D:D:D:D:D

Wow you got me hahaha... umm... I guess you can make up all the excuses in the world but you still lost by .6 no matter how you like to spin it.

You know a lot more about drag racing them me for sure bro. I'm sitting back just listening to you and trying to take notes. However, it's far too much information for my little brain to take in.

I'll leave the drag racing to the pro's like yourself. :D

Have a great day champ.

Tim I thought someone on the corral bought your money pit, oops I mean GT? He made a post on it in the sohc forum. whys it still in your sig.? Btw why are you looking for vertsfor your new project?

I said clean not perfect. A 2.2 for a GT or f-body on street tires isn't good, but its not a "horrid launch" I know the formulas and such for racing and such but with a 2.2 60' he didn't sit there in a cloud of smoke at launch, he got out of the hole.


Sorry to break it to you, but a 2.2 60 ft BLOWS.

An "average" driver should be able to pull a 2.0 60 ft time in a stock Mustang GT (or F-Body for that matter) on the stock tires/suspension/etc.
"Great" drivers will do as good as 1.8's by slipping the clutch out of the hole & being careful with the throttle - I've seen it done plenty of times.


Why do v8 guys get so butthurt when a v6er admits a loss :confused: , it kills me.

Not "butthurt" at all - I simply don't agree with your evaluation of the numbers.

For a stock/decently-powered V8 Car:

2.2 60 ft = "The Suck" (Higher is even worse obviously...)
2.0 60 ft = "Average/OK/Clean"
1.8 60 ft = "Great"

;)

Tim I thought someone on the corral bought your money pit, oops I mean GT? He made a post on it in the sohc forum. whys it still in your sig.? Btw why are you looking for vertsfor your new project?

Antz,
Yes someone was supposed to buy it, however, I kept getting excuses. Yes the car is a moneypit but it's my moneypit and this combination I'm running now is finally something to have fun and run good times with. The other engines I had were stock and hindsight, I can't believe I ran a stock engine with boost..... stupid mistake on my part.

I'm not looking for a new project.. this has been my project since 1998 and you'll see some times posted up as soon as my new built transmission gets here.

Original Poster: Sorry to hi-jack your thread.

Cheers,
Tim

Nice, I saw your post looking for vert c5's, gt's etc...guess you changed your mind which happens alot w/ cars...Id hold onto it to...finally got it running right

Nice, I saw your post looking for vert c5's, gt's etc...guess you changed your mind which happens alot w/ cars...Id hold onto it to...finally got it running right

Ya I was seriously considering getting the new Z06, however, opted to purchase a new boat (http://tealnet.com/photopost/showgallery.php?cat=536) instead and finally have fun with this car. BTW, even with only 300 miles on the new built engine when we hit the dyno and it pulled a bit over 500rwhp with 12-13psi. Not too shabby. I suspect now that the engine has a bit more mileage and with that new trans on the way (the one in the car is a modified stocker that just can't handle the power), the car should run pretty good and I think suprise a lot of people.

Nice Boat, yea im curious see some 1/4 times.

Damn v6 guys... they think they are fast ;) :D

Nice vid :cool:

Damn v6 guys... they think they are fast ;) :D

Nice vid :cool:

You need to change your username don't you? :D

You need to change your username don't you? :D

;) Working on it.
4:10's in place of 3:23's
4,000 stall in place of 3200 stall

I think that might just do it ;)

Bird comes back... this friday :D

Not to burst your bubble but you don't know much about drag racing...

R/T .131 .427
60' 2.175 2.252
330 6.226 6.231
1/8 9.589 9.446
mph 73.09 78.67
1000 12.479 12.153
1/4 14.911 14.393
mph 92.73 101.15

Right 1st .2221

R/T(Reaction time)
.427
-.131
-------
.296

ET
14.911
-14.393
--------
0.518

Difference of ET-difference of R/T
0.518
-0.296
-------
.222

.222(The difference of time he went through the lights, and when I went through the lights)As stated at the bottom by the track(Right 1st .2221)


YOu do know someone can run a faster time and still lose a race at a dragstrip, right?


:D:D:D:D:D


Yea, but you still lost by .6.
:eek:

To a Mustang! HAhahahahaha! Mustangs are slow. :p